[RTTY] SPAM

Jamie WW3S jtolbert@gremlan.org
Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:59:23 -0500


Once you respond to the remove me message you are doomed. That only confirms
that they have a valid address which then gets sold to someone else....best
thing to do is just delete it and move on.....

73 Jamie WW3S

----- Original Message -----
From: "Garry Shapiro" <garry@ni6t.com>
To: "John Dyer" <jdyer@txol.net>; "Kok Chen" <chen@mac.com>;
<rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 1:44 AM
Subject: [RTTY] SPAM


> Ditto that, Houston....
>
> Trying to live up to my confrontational image, I took out after every Spam
> sender I could identify. I responded to their "remove me" messages, and
went
> after them and their ISP's when there were no such messages. I created
> filters--almost 200 of them, at last count. I forwarded every received
Spam,
> with full headers, to my ISP, with a request for action. I sent letters to
> the domestic advertising associations to which many spammers nominally
> belong, and to whose canons they must supposedly adhere.
>
> The result? I now receive a veritable flood of unwanted
> solicitations---about one in every half-dozen emails! That means 10 or 12
> per day, minimum. The ISP has stopped even acknowledging receipt of the
> forwards, much less acting upon them. For every email caught by a filter,
50
> get by, since the senders have mastered the low art of hiding behind
> legitimate email addresses, or jumping from ISP to ISP, one step ahead of
> the law, so to speak. Send the crap and bail out. The letters to the trade
> associations provide a temporary respite from phone solicitors and email
> spammers, but the letters need to be resent periodically (new players keep
> popping up), and only domestic spammers and solicitors are blocked---and
> much of this crap comes from overseas.
>
> They love responses, negative, postitive or ambivalent---it means there is
a
> live one on the other end, and that address can be resold. The harder you
> fight, the more ground you lose.
>
> These people are cockroaches. They see the Internet as their private
dining
> room, and they abide by no rules. Insurance, stocks, sexual stimulants,
> pornography, credit assistance, tax assistance, banking, mortgages,
> privacy....no subject is missed. Hitting at them is like hitting the tar
> baby. I used to think just hitting the DELETE key was a copout---but now I
> think it is the only defense, akin to stepping on individual cockroaches
> when you find them. The Internet needs a fumigator, in the shape of
> Congress, but our elected representatives seem curiously ineffectual here.
>
> Oh, there is one more defense---I have changed my email address.
Henceforth,
> I shall visit no web site whose purposes are not clear in advance. I shall
> not respond to any emails not clearly in my direct interest. I shall sign
up
> for no come-ons, freebies, trials, trips, promotions, contests
(non-radio),
> incentives or questionnaires, political, economic, social or otherwise. In
> short, I shall constrict my Internet experience to the bare essentials.
And,
> if some spammer crashes a Reflector to which I subscribe, I shall consider
> bailing permanently from that Reflector.
>
> In short, Spam is a disease of our times....and I do not wish to deal with
> it any longer. I'll see how long I can stay relatively clean.
>
> Garry, NI6T
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> 160 meters---not a band but an obsession
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rtty-admin@contesting.com [mailto:rtty-admin@contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of John Dyer
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 03:19
> To: Kok Chen; rtty@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] WWW.RTTYINFO.NET
>
>
> Reported to ISP via Spamcop.
>
> A reply back to christine@trafficmagnet.net) probably would add
> another "live" address to their database.
>
> John
> AE5B
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kok Chen <chen@mac.com>
>
>
> > I would suggest that everybody send the spam
> > back to the person who sent it (christine@trafficmagnet.net).
>
>
> > > 73
> > Chen, AA6TY
> >
> >
>
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