I have a Logitech iFeel Mouseman, the one with the tactile feedback. Using one puts some of the old AR33 feel back into RTTY (sorry if I butchered the model #). 73 - Jim AD1C -- Season's Greetings 2001/2002 - http://www.ad1c.com/2001/ Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com