Re: RE: [RTTY] ÄRTTYÅ RTTY length and macros

[Jan Palmquist]

Hi Robert.

It is important that the DX has the call of the
calling station at the end of the message. The
beginning is often destroyed by QRM and nobody
knows who the DX answered unless the call is at
the end too. 

The DX tells his call when he confirms the QSO and
asks QRZ?

R SM5FUG QSL 73 QRZ? de FT5XO UP K

The calling station should give both calls:
FT5XO de SM5FUG CFM UR 599 599 TU de SM5FUG K

Having my call at both start and end helps the DX
to know that it really is me and not one of the
breakers stealing QSO. It is not necessary if
propagation is very good though.

Conditions are not the same for a DX-pile or a contest.
In DX-pile there are no doubt who is the DX and who is 
the caller. I think it is more important to have both
calls included like you suggested in a contest otherwise
it is not clear who works who when more than one station
call. I have seen two S/P stations giving each other reports
and both belived they worked me when I have been the running
station. 

73's de Jan/SM5FUG


> Hi all.
> 
> I agree also to have the K at the end.
> Also a cr at the beginning
> One thing confuses me a lot is that message:
> Sm5fug sm5fug ur 599 599 sm5fug K
> WHO IS SENDING THE MESSAGE.
> In a pile up as I get a lot of times a message like that never tells me 
who
> is the sender
> I suggest a message like this.
> 
> CR
> Sm5fug ur 599 xxx xxx de tf3rb K
> That tellse the whole story
> 
> See u guys
> 73 de TF3RB KN
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Jan Palmquist
> Sent: 8. apríl 2005 15:20
> To: rtty at contesting.com
> Cc: Phil W9IXX
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] ÄRTTYÅ RTTY length and macros
> 
> No, I suggest to keep the K at the end.
> 
> Some software skips space at the end of a buffer.
> Putting the K there ensures that there will be a space sent
> after the call. Otherwise the call won't be separated
> from the noise garbage.
> 
> Message should be: 
> SM5FUG SM5FUG UR 599 599 SM5FUG K
> 
> Double calls at beginning to synchronize on and a single
> at the end.
> 
> On screen it will look like
> GARBAGESM5FUG SM5FUG UR 599 599 SM5FUG KMOREGARBAGE
> 
> A Carrige return at start is also nice to have. 
> 
> 73's de Jan/SM5FUG
> 
> 
> > I would also suggest not using the "K" and "BK" at the end of 
> the 
> > transmission. They are useful for CW but have no value for RTTY. 
> Being a 
> > continuous carrier mode, when the RTTY carrier drops it is 
> obviously your 
> > turn to transmit. Unlike CW, there is no possible confusion as 
> to when the 
> > sending station has stopped.
> > 
> > For casual ragchewing this is of little consequence, but for 
> DXing and 
> > contesting, time is of the essence. Over the course of thousands 
> of QSOs, 
> > that little bit of extra time adds up to many minutes wasted. Do 
> the math 
> > and see for yourself.
> > 
> > -- 
> > 73, Bill W6WRT
> > 
> > 
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