[RTTY] Have RTTY ops become SSB ops?

[va3dx at sympatico.ca]

Do a test like I did this morning on the VU7 pileup.....

When he responds to someone, listen up and do 
a number guess on the amount of people who start calling again

My God cant be that many bad packet ops ???

People dont give a S**T anymore, is ok to be crude,
rude and stupid , since it seems alot of other folks
are the same.

Guess I'm discouraged that so many cant operate
their radios in a courteous manner...

Ask K9RB , the VU7 made 3 attempts yesterday on
RTTY to get his confirmation...  Why ??
I listened , everyone started calling on his freq, causing
qrm for the VU7...

No more CW requirement, dumbed down exams etc..
I suppose we cant complain ....

Glenn VA3DX



> 
> On Dec 14, 2006, at 2:40 PM, va3dx at sympatico.ca wrote:
> >
> >>> I don't think Jim was blaming packet per se, just that it makes it
> >>> easier for the lids to jump on a frequency all at once. Without  
> >>> packet
> >>> in the olden days, it took some time and that spread out the QRM.
> >>> Nowdays a single packet spot can cause havoc.
> >
> > Packet may help them find the pileup, but it wont prevent
> > poor operators from giving ill timed, incessant calls.....
> 
> You have to think percentages, Glenn.
> 
> There is always a small fraction who calls accidentally...
> 
> ... and there will always be a fraction who calls out of turn as a  
> habit, although it is debatable if the fraction itself is actually  
> increasing.
> 
> (Even if it is increasing, the fraction itself can't keep increasing  
> by very much per year -- otherwise in a span of just ten years,  
> everybody will be calling out of turn :-P.)
> 
> A packet spot will bring in more ops.  If the fraction of poor ops  
> remains the same, the absolute number of them is larger with the  
> existence of the packet mechanism.
> 
> Get rid of packet, and the absolute number of out of turn callers  
> will go down.
> 
> Didn't one of the MicroLite operations (the one to Thule and King  
> George?) specifically asked that people *not* spot them?
> 
> It is funny that this topic cropped up because just recently, a  
> DXpedition station had called out one of our big gun RTTY ops on this  
> reflector as being an offender who kept stomping on a weak station  
> while the DX was trying to work the weak station.  I was watching the  
> pile while this was happening and could see that the DX had not  
> mistaken the call sign.  So I guess it happens to all of us now and  
> then.
> 
> I also saw the same DX station call out someone who'd repeatedly  
> transmitted on his frequency and not working the transgressor for an  
> hour even after he had moved away from the DX' frequency.  The  
> offender was pleading over and over in long messages, after he'd  
> moved and you know the DX was reading it since he would be quiet when  
> the groveling was occurring :-).
> 
> There are some stations who are consistent pests and I am sure each  
> of us has our own mental "black book."
> 
> 73
> Chen, W7AY
> 
> 
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