[RTTY] w4atv/w6irt

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Bill, 

> I guess I have to spell it out. Please note this is not a personal
> attack of any kind, just a statement of facts. You make up your own
> mind. 

I'm tired of your crap ... it is not a "statement of facts."  You are 
making up facts to suit yourself and it is uncalled for. 

> 1. If SO1R and SO2R become separate categories, fewer people will 
> be have the desire to spend the money to upgrade to SO2R.  They 
> will be perfectly happy operating SO1R and they will have no need 
> to purchase Joe's products.

I sell far more single radio products that "SO2R" products.  A change 
in entry categories - whether it be discriminatory and unenforceable 
separate entry categories for "SO1R" and "SO#R" will not effect my 
income in any way.  People will buy what they want and need. 

> 2. As a result of #1, Joe will make less money. That is what I call 
> a financial interest and that is why it should have a disclaimer.

My personal opinions are my PERSONAL opinions.  Since a separate 
category will not effect my profit from the "second job" one dime, 
I have no financial interest in the number of entry classes in any 
contest.  However, as one who has used SO2R techniques for more 
than 30 years to some degree, I find your bigoted, segregationist 
views concerning SO2R to be as repugnant as your constant lies 
about me and my alleged motives. 

> 3. As a side benefit of not feeling "forced" to upgrade, fewer 
> people will become discouraged at always being beaten (badly) 
> and will continue contesting. 

Anyone who has no incentive to improve his performance is no 
longer competing - whether he submits a score or not. 

> By his own admission, he has not done any RTTY contesting for the 
> last two years. I have more than 44.000 RTTY QSOs in my log and 
> his call does not appear, even once.

That's bullshit.  I have done RTTY, CW and SSB contesting in the 
last two years - I just haven't had the displeasure of working 
YOUR station.  Whether I choose to submit a log, or work your 
station has nothing to do with the " validity" or "motivation" 
behind my comments.  

I have participated in contests based on my own interests and other 
commitments for more than 30 years.  I've managed to attain my 
share of "top 10" positions although I do not do so on a regular 
basis and I do use SO2R techniques although not extensively when 
I feel they are appropriate.  






> -----Original Message-----
> From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:50 PM
> To: jjreisert at alum.mit.edu
> Cc: RTTY List
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] w4atv/w6irt
> 
> 
> ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
> 
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:19:08 -0700 (PDT), Jim Reisert AD1C
> <jjreisert at alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> >Oh, please!  A financial interest in whether SO1R and SO2R 
> are made into
> >separate categories?  Please give Joe a little credit.  
> Perhaps he's speaking
> >as himself.
> 
> ------------ REPLY FOLLOWS ------------
> 
> I guess I have to spell it out. Please note this is not a personal
> attack of any kind, just a statement of facts. You make up your own
> mind. 
> 
> 1. If SO1R and SO2R become separate categories, fewer people will be
> have the desire to spend the money to upgrade to SO2R. They will be
> perfectly happy operating SO1R and they will have no need to purchase
> Joe's products.
> 
> 2. As a result of #1, Joe will make less money. That is what I call a
> financial interest and that is why it should have a disclaimer.
> 
> 3. As a side benefit of not feeling "forced" to upgrade, fewer people
> will become discouraged at always being beaten (badly) and will
> continue contesting. This is my motivation for advocating what I
> advocate. I have no financial dog in this fight at all, zero.
> 
> By his own admission, he has not done any RTTY contesting for the last
> two years. I have more than 44.000 RTTY QSOs in my log and his call
> does not appear, even once. It seems to me that his interest is PURELY
> financial since he doesn't even use his own products for contesting!
> 
> Make sense now?
> 
> Bill W6WRT
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