[RTTY] ARRL RTTY

Tue Jan 5 18:12:07 PST 2010

Thanks Jim.  And yes, to confirm, I am in favor of a separate SO2R class.  I especially like the way BARTG has handled it by
creating their Expert class. And other contests are coming around.  But we are preaching to the choir here.  The focus should be to
address the contest managers.

I feel the real root problem in Roundup is the Multi class.  The M/S single rules need to be changed to something similar to what
CQWW has.  I can't imagine M/S being much fun in Roundup.  Maybe it is.  I've not ever operated M/S in Roundup so I really don't
know.  But it seems painful to be limited. I know Ed lobbied to get these rules changed and failed for the Roundup, but succeeded in
other areas.  Just need to be trying.

73, Don AA5AU
http://www.aa5au.com
http://www.rttycontesting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of James Colville
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:20 PM
Cc: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] ARRL RTTY

The BEST SO2R RTTY man is Don, AA5AU. Hands down.

So by Don saying that he is in favor of another entry class says something about his class! (Pun intended).

73
Jim W7RY

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:16 PM, James Colville <jimw7ry at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not talking about a dual receiver set up. I'm talking about SO2R.
> Single OP 2 radios and usually 2 amplifiers on 2 bands at once.
>
> One rig for a run station and another to work mults and search and 
> pounce mode. This is how such huge scores are produced in RTTY 
> contests that have no 10 minute rule.
>
> The issue is very easy to fix. Put on a 10 min rule for single op stations.
> Only 3 band changes per hour or better yet, make another entry category.
> Single transmitter and multi transmitter.
>
> When the contest was designed, My guess is that Jay and Hal did not 
> consider the possibly of SO2R. But then aganin, they usually thought 
> of everything so I don't know.
>
>
> Want a llittle RTTY Roundup insite? Then see:
>
> http://www.arrl.org/members-only/contests/results/2002/rtty/k7ira.html
> This is a members only document. Sorry...
>
> The contest needs another entry class. Pretty plain and simple.
>
>
> 73
> Jim W7RY
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Jeff Blaine AC0C 
> <keepwalking188 at yahoo.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Can you explain to the uninitiated how a dual RX configuration would 
>> provide an advantage?
>>
>> I can see advancing from one q to the next on each rig, 
>> alternatively, and then transmitting on the one that's ready for a 
>> call - but beyond that, it seems a guy is already going to be busy 
>> looking at the print - the macros take care of the sending, but the 
>> eye is still needed to sort the wheat from the chaff especially given a marginal print.
>>
>> What am I missing?
>>
>> 73/jeff/ac0c
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Martin Bluhm" <w8aks55 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:41 PM
>> To: "James Colville" <jimw7ry at gmail.com>; <K5NZ at aol.com>
>>
>> Cc: <rtty at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] ARRL RTTY
>>
>> I second Jim's proposal. That would even the playing field which is 
>> tilted
>>> at the present time.
>>>
>>> My .02 also.
>>> Thanks Jim.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Marty
>>> W8AKS
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com 
>>> [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com]On
>>> Behalf Of James Colville
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 02:16
>>> To: K5NZ at aol.com
>>> Cc: rtty at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] ARRL RTTY
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's what I don't like....
>>>
>>> That single ops can run 2 radios and compete against those of us 
>>> that choose not to run 2 radios.
>>>
>>> I think that 2 radio contesting should put you into the multi 
>>> transmitter class.
>>>
>>>
>>> My .02$
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Jim W7RY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:15 PM, <K5NZ at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> As the landscape of a contest changes I think tweaks are a good 
>>> thing for
>>>> everyone..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent to ARRL Contest Branch:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> First, thanks for supporting this fine contest!
>>>>
>>>> Next I would like to submit for your consideration the addition of 
>>>> another category.  In the past several years the participation in 
>>>> the contest has increased every year. I would like to suggest the 
>>>> addition of a M2 or  MM category.  Some of the "mega" stations are 
>>>> now finding the fun in  RTTY
>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>> putting together teams for this event.  Why not give them a  better 
>>>> venue to compete while leaving the MS class for stations more 
>>>> suited for  this class.
>>>> I think this would keep the MS, for those with more limited  
>>>> resources, very competitive and not disadvantage them having to 
>>>> compete with the big MM stations.  It would also give the MM 
>>>> stations more to do with the  operators they have assembled.  As I 
>>>> have said many times, I think RTTY  will be the "new" CW as far as 
>>>> rate because so many casual operators are  enjoying the mode.  And 
>>>> after last weekend with rates in the 180's, I think  it is almost 
>>>> there!
>>>>
>>>> I hope you will consider this addition, I will step up and offer to
>>>>
>>> sponsor
>>>
>>>>  the plaque for this category the first year if you decide to add it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike Hance K5NZ
>>>>
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