[RTTY] Disturbing Observations

Mon Jun 14 17:49:06 PDT 2010

Mike,
Dont feel bad I too have done this on several occasions with N1MM so you are
not alone. 

And just my two cents worth, I haven't done any RTTY contest lately because
I just got tired of putting up with all the violators, run freq grabbers,
and just generally unsportsman like behavior. I am by far and away a small
station, 100watts and wires, no amps -- just can't put it in the budget
right now. Not SO2R just plain ole the little guy. I did alright in the
contest I did participate in but just wanted to enjoy my contest not get run
over by someone running a bigger system than I am.  And I agree 100 if
people are cheating then by god they should be reported. 

And please for the love of god, give us little guys a chance and quit
running us off. I won't give the call but on three different occasions I
worked a RTTY tester who answered my run, thanked me then immediately took
off calling CQ on my freq. Same guy each time, hell he has probably been
mentioned here already --- oh yeah and these weren't Sprints either. Hope to
make a comeback on the RTTY scene soon once I get a weekend where there is a
good test and not a CW test I am more interested in --- yep fell off the
Digi bandwagon and landed on the CW.. ;)

Jeremy
N4JIK formerly KD4LCR/7J6CEM
Fort Benning, GA/Phenix City, AL
Triple Play Award #327

"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
because he loves what is behind him." G. K. Chesterton

-----Original Message-----
From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On
Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:43 PM
To: 'Don Hill AA5AU'; rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Disturbing Observations

Please report him.  I have heard this too.  This is not a problem with SO2R
it is a problem with the operator.  We don't remove cars from the road
because the speed or break the rules, they get tickets and their ability to
drive a car may be removed.  Maybe this operator was at a station that could
have 6 bands going at once.  

As already state folks use high power and claim less, use amps that put out
well over our legal limit etc.  This has been going on for years and years.

As for getting spotting on his run frequency I have done it.  If you use
N1MM and do not have the running box checked and have the spot new calls
going this will happen.  If your spots window it might take a bit to notice.

W0MU

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-----Original Message-----
From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Don Hill AA5AU
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:04 PM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: [RTTY] Disturbing Observations

As I tuned around the bands during the last 8 hour segment, I found a USA
SO2R station transmitting on both 15 and 20 meters at the same time in a
blatant violation of the rules.  It wasn't a case of someone just making a
mistake.  I watched for 15-20 minutes and simply couldn't believe what I was
seeing.  I did let them know he or they were breaking the rules and he/they
immediately stopped.
But it made me mad.

Then a little while longer, I saw my call pop up on the bandmap on 20 meters
even though I was S&P on that band.  At first I thought someone made a
mistake.  Then I looked at the origin of the spot and realized it was a
station I had just worked.  This operator spotted me on his run frequency.
Although that is not a direct violation of the rules, it still irked me.

I don't know how much of this goes on, but it needs to stop.  The next time
I catch someone transmitting two signals at the same time, I will call them
out publicly on it.  I realize there will be instances of stations
transmitting at the same time (Multi-2, Multi-Multi).  But the rules of the
DLDC were specific:

4. GENERAL for all categories:

(e) Only one transmitted signal is permitted at any time.

As far as spotting other stations on one's run frequency, it's just the
wrong thing to do.  There have been times, such as when I was on ten meters,
when I wanted to spot someone on my run frequency just to let everyone else
know the band was open.  But I didn't.  So don't get caught up in it.

There's been a lot of cheating going on in CW and SSB contests and it's
apparent there is cheating on RTTY too.  I'm not sure what we can do about
it other than make it a point to let people know we aren't going to tolerate
it.  I'm definitely not going to tolerate it.

73, Don AA5AU
http://www.aa5au.com
http://www.rttycontesting.com 

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