[RTTY] Cheating

[Tom Moore]

That's okay, Mike.  Just goes to show we humans are not perfect and everyone
makes mistakes every now and then.  I, and I'm sure others, have made the
same mistake - probably more than once.  I made a similar mistake in the
NAQP last Summer and ended up sending in a checklog. I was also accused of
running high power in that one when I was not! We have a lot of new oprs and
ops trying out SO2R who are bound to make mistakes. A good contest is the
only way these folks are going to learn; going to build their skills. Good
ops don't just happen; they occur as a result of lots of practice and
experience.  While I feel sure 'some' cheating exists, I like to believe
that 'most' are following the rules the best they can.  Accusing someone of
intentional cheating without unconditional proof is just not right even
though the accuser may be absolutely convinced, even have proof, of a
violation. Imagine the new ops coming along.  They're going to be freaked
out now expecting someone to accuse them of cheating when they make a simple
mistake and don't notice it for a while. I don't know why Don said what he
did the way he did. But, without hard core proof that it was intentional, I
believe he was wrong in saying it the way he did and I suspect he regrets
saying it like that.  Just shows that even the best ops are human and are
subject to making tiny mistakes too. Yes, we all suspect, but rarely can
prove, intentional cheating.  And yes, if we can unconditionally prove it,
then we need to speak up - to the contest sponsor.  There's been a lot of
heat about this subject the last few days and it's clear there's a lot of
hard-core opinions on it.  But we need to lighten up a bit and remember this
is just a hobby.  --Tom 

-----Original Message-----
From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:02 PM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Cheating

Sent the following to Don a few minutes ago.

"Hello Don,

I'm probably the culprit.  No excuse but it wasn't intentional.

Forgot to initiate the "RTTY Single Tx Lockout - Last one wins" Writelog
feature until noticed the meters on both amps. were showing xmitting.  Once
saw this, I realized what happened.  I don't think any simultaneous QSOs
were made to my knowledge, only working a station on one band while CQ on
the other (still a "Rules" violation).  Out of town family commitments and
then having my grandson's soccer team holding their end of season party at
the QTH on Sunday didn't allow much time to get everything set-up and
tested.  Then only had a few hours of in and out shack time.  The desire to
put some time in the Contest over took double checking the S/W set-up.

Regarding the spotting, Don, on the wrong band, again, this could have been
associated as well with the problem of the "RTTY Single Tx Lockout - Last
one wins" not being checked.   Normally, just calling up the "Edit Packet
Spot" (Cntrl T in Writelog) will have entered the last call worked on the
keyboard entry band for sending to the Cluster.  Again, noticed this wasn't
the case after posting several "wrong" frequencies for stations heard in the
Contest.  However, noticed this occurring even after the "RTTY Single Tx
Lockout - Last one wins" was checked.  Used the ANARTS Writelog module as
didn't realize a DLDC WL module had been published due to being on travel
without Internet the preceding week.  I'll see what happens with the DLDC
module.

Again I apologize for the errors.  I'll chalk this up with my having
erroneously operated 11 hours in a 10 hour contest and the several times
started a contest too soon."

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at subich.com> wrote:

>
> Sometimes it's appropriate to call a thing for what it is.
>
> You can't expect to discriminate against one group of single
> operators simply because you don't like their choice of technique.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
> On 6/15/2010 12:10 PM, Bill, W6WRT wrote:
> > ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
> >
> > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:06:43 -0400, "Joe Subich, W4TV"
> > <lists at subich.com>  wrote:
> >
> >> you are a bigot.
> >
> > REPLY:
> >
> > Oldest rule of the Internet:  When the name calling begins, the
> > argument has been lost.
> >
> > 73, Bill W6WRT
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  73,
  Mike, K4GMH
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