[RTTY] RTTY Digest, Vol 104, Issue 25

Don Hill AA5AU aa5au at bellsouth.net
Sat Aug 13 07:31:33 PDT 2011


Welcome to the group Larry.  Hopefully you can learn from the group.  There are a lot of experienced RTTY operators here.  If you
have a question, don't be afraid to post it.  And never think a question is a "stupid question" because the only stupid question is
the one not asked.

I'm not familiar with the FT857D, but I'm sure there are people here who own one and can help you with your RTTY setup.  There is
also information on the web for getting up and running on RTTY.  You may want to take a look at "Getting Started on RTTY" located
here:

http://www.aa5au.com/rtty.html

I have been in the process of updating the individual HTML pages.  Once this is done I will update the PDF file.  But there should
be enough information there to give you an idea of how RTTY works.  Also, you can always send me a personal email.  My mailbox is
always open.

73, Don AA5AU
http://www.aa5au.com
http://www.rttycontesting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of larry fields
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:29 AM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Digest, Vol 104, Issue 25

hello am new to this group and often times read when I can the info here. I just purchased a new yaesu FT857d and plan to operate in
January on RTTY and PSK31,JT65HF when I get back to my home in the Philippines.

I work alot of dx on the other side of the world as well, and when I worked a few pile ups on 6m a few years back it was pretty
difficult to pick out some calls, many I did work was the ones who threw there calls at the end of the pile. Unfortunately many
tried to walk over the ones I was replying to. But I kept at it until the band closed out,or had to leave for a meal or c/r run.

Am still learning from the group here and hope the yaesu ft857d or my other rig the icom706mk2 works good for me.

73 from the coast line of Japan

Larry

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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:41:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Don AA5AU <aa5au at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Response to DX Station
> To: RTTY contest group <rtty at contesting.com>
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> Peter wrote:? "If only all DX would call USA stations by number!"
> ?
> I hate when DX stations go by numbers.? It's a cop out for those who 
> do not know how to handle a pileup.? It's?penalizes?good operators 
> from getting in and getting out of the pileup and it does not take 
> into consideration propagation openings to certain parts of the world/USA/whatever...
> ?
> 73, Don AA5AU
>
> From: Peter Laws <plaws at plaws.net>
>>To: RTTY contest group <rtty at contesting.com>
>>Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:31 AM
>>Subject: Re: [RTTY] Response to DX Station
>>
>>On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 20:30, Ron Kolarik <rkolarik at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>> If you could get everyone to read and abide by the DX Code of 
>>> Conduct it might help http://dx-code.org/
>>
>>I agree with all of these, but ....
>>
>>o I will not trust the DX cluster and will be sure of the DX station's 
>>call sign before calling.
>>
>>Very difficult when the DX end goes for along time without IDing at 
>>all.? Worth it, of course, but very difficult.
>>
>>
>>o? I will not transmit when the DX station requests geographic areas 
>>other than mine.
>>
>>If only all DX would call USA stations by number!
>>
>>
>>o? When the DX operator calls me, I will not repeat my call sign 
>>unless I think he has copied it incorrectly.
>>
>>By FCC rule, I must identify every 10 minutes and at the end of a 
>>communication, so I will repeat my call at the end.? Sorry.
>>
>>
>>
>>--
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:55:35 -0600
> From: Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu at w0mu.com>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Response to DX Station
> To: rtty at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <4E456917.50000 at w0mu.com>
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> I have to admit to doing that too but not with stations like ST0R or 
> BS7H.  I will work them once per band/mode unless I feel my contact 
> was less than certain.
>
> I can't fault people for wanting to break piles.  It does rub me wrong 
> when I am trying to work something on a tough path and someone works 
> the guy and tells the world that this the 29th time they have worked 
> on this band yadayadayada........
>
> On 8/12/2011 11:34 AM, Don AA5AU wrote:
>> I always feel the "need" to bust a pileup even if I don't "need" it.  
>> It's the fun of it that drives people to work stations they don't 
>> "need" for an award.  Some people don't even chase awards, but they 
>> "need" to bust a pileup or just work the DX.
>>
>> I've been going through DX'ing withdrawl since ST0R went QRT.  I did 
>> get a "fix" last night when I worked TY1KS on 80M CW for a new band country.
>> Some of us are just plain addicted to 
>> DX'ing/Contesting/Anything-to-do-with-ham-radio.
>>
>> I'm going through RTTY contesting withdrawl too, but hope to "fix" 
>> that need next weekend in SARTG.
>>
>> 73, Don AA5AU
>>
>> From: Mike Fatchett W0MU<w0mu at w0mu.com>
>>> To: rtty at contesting.com
>>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 10:51 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Response to DX Station
>>>
>>> The one problem with online "logs" is that the DX could have busted 
>>> a call and logged me instead of W1MU or W9MU.  In your scenario I 
>>> would be penalized because they busted the contact.
>>>
>>> I don't know how many people feel the need to work DX peditions 
>>> multiple times when they know they have a solid contact.
>>>
>>> W0MU
>>>
>>> On 8/12/2011 4:17 AM, Shelby Summerville wrote:
>>>> K0IDT wrote: "If you could get everyone to read and abide by the DX 
>>>> Code of Conduct it might help  http://dx-code.org/"
>>>>
>>>> As long as DXCC Challenge, DeSoto Cup and the "ego satisfying" 
>>>> attempts to stay at the top of the Honor Roll exists, the DX Code 
>>>> of Conduct is not applicapable! For the few that "work them and 
>>>> shut up", many, many more try and work them on as many bands/modes 
>>>> as possible. I await the day a "rare"
>>>> DXpedition, that has online log availability, and publishes their 
>>>> operating style, penalizes duplicate band callers by removing all 
>>>> of their other contacts? If one is sure that they are in the online 
>>>> log, I see absolutely no reason for another attempt, on the same 
>>>> band. In the case of a new entity, "once per band/mode" should be 
>>>> enforced? I also believe that the DX has most of the responsibility 
>>>> of "controlling the pileup"?
>>>>
>>>> C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>>>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:15:26 -0400
> From: Neal Campbell <abrohamneal at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Response to DX Station
> To: Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu at w0mu.com>
> Cc: rtty at contesting.com
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> I do not think its the "highly skilled" dx'er with a competitive urge 
> that makes things so slow, its the guys who are not on the air a lot 
> but want some new DX that pile on, don't listen, keep calling when the 
> dx is trying to work someone else. The Mikes and Dons are in and out 
> so quickly that we hardly notice them unless we hear the dx calling them.
>
> 73
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:
>
>> I have to admit to doing that too but not with stations like ST0R or 
>> BS7H.  I will work them once per band/mode unless I feel my contact 
>> was less than certain.
>>
>> I can't fault people for wanting to break piles.  It does rub me 
>> wrong when I am trying to work something on a tough path and someone 
>> works the guy and tells the world that this the 29th time they have 
>> worked on this band yadayadayada........
>>
>> On 8/12/2011 11:34 AM, Don AA5AU wrote:
>> > I always feel the "need" to bust a pileup even if I don't "need" it.
>>  It's the fun of it that drives people to work stations they don't "need"
>> for an award.  Some people don't even chase awards, but they "need" 
>> to bust a pileup or just work the DX.
>> >
>> > I've been going through DX'ing withdrawl since ST0R went QRT.  I 
>> > did get
>> a "fix" last night when I worked TY1KS on 80M CW for a new band country.
>>  Some of us are just plain addicted to 
>> DX'ing/Contesting/Anything-to-do-with-ham-radio.
>> >
>> > I'm going through RTTY contesting withdrawl too, but hope to "fix" 
>> > that
>> need next weekend in SARTG.
>> >
>> > 73, Don AA5AU
>> >
>> > From: Mike Fatchett W0MU<w0mu at w0mu.com>
>> >> To: rtty at contesting.com
>> >> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 10:51 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Response to DX Station
>> >>
>> >> The one problem with online "logs" is that the DX could have 
>> >> busted a call and logged me instead of W1MU or W9MU.  In your 
>> >> scenario I would be penalized because they busted the contact.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know how many people feel the need to work DX peditions 
>> >> multiple times when they know they have a solid contact.
>> >>
>> >> W0MU
>> >>
>> >> On 8/12/2011 4:17 AM, Shelby Summerville wrote:
>> >>> K0IDT wrote: "If you could get everyone to read and abide by the 
>> >>> DX
>> Code of
>> >>> Conduct it might help  http://dx-code.org/"
>> >>>
>> >>> As long as DXCC Challenge, DeSoto Cup and the "ego satisfying"
>> >>> attempts
>> to
>> >>> stay at the top of the Honor Roll exists, the DX Code of Conduct 
>> >>> is not applicapable! For the few that "work them and shut up", 
>> >>> many, many more
>> try
>> >>> and work them on as many bands/modes as possible. I await the day 
>> >>> a
>> "rare"
>> >>> DXpedition, that has online log availability, and publishes their
>> operating
>> >>> style, penalizes duplicate band callers by removing all of their 
>> >>> other contacts? If one is sure that they are in the online log, I 
>> >>> see
>> absolutely
>> >>> no reason for another attempt, on the same band. In the case of a 
>> >>> new entity, "once per band/mode" should be enforced? I also 
>> >>> believe that
>> the DX
>> >>> has most of the responsibility of "controlling the pileup"?
>> >>>
>> >>> C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>> >>>
>> >>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:19:23 -0400
> From: Neal Campbell <abrohamneal at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] reply to DXer/Contesters
> To: Bill <w9ol at billnjudy.com>
> Cc: rtty at contesting.com
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> How about
> "CQ from good ops only"
>
> or
> "CQ K3NC.."
>
> Hi HI!
> Neal
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Bill <w9ol at billnjudy.com> wrote:
>
>> How bout.....hihi
>>
>> a cq from the dx station with
>> "CQ  weak stations only!"
>>
>> or
>> "CQ medium power stations only!"
>>
>> or
>>
>> "CQ only high power, super mega antennas, mega amps only"
>>
>> It would be interesting to see who chose to call in each of these subsets.
>>
>>
>> LOL LOL
>>
>>
>> --
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>> ---------------------------
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