[RTTY] software

[David Levine]

I don't think anyone is insisting on free, but today most applications have
a way to test drive them. They are either restricted to a particular amount
of time, reduced capacity (can only enter xx contacts in a contest as an
example) or some other throttle that allows you to try things out and
determine if you want to purchase the product.

i think the point has been made, and if WL's strategy is pay or get nothing,
then from me, it might be get nothing. I wonder how many more of "me" there
are out there? Like I posted, I have no issue paying $30 (per year) for
something that gives me value, but I'm not willing to pay $30 to find out
there is possibly no value for something.

At least with $30 in laxative, you probably are up to $90 in toilet paper
too.

David - K2DSL


On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Dick Flanagan <dick at k7vc.com> wrote:

>  I spend more than $30 a year on laxatives.  If you insist on everything
> being free, you are to lose out on a lot of quality products.
>
> Dick
>
>
> At 09:04 AM 1/13/2011, David Levine wrote:
> >Jerry,
> >
> >Thanks for the reply. So for $18 I could check out an almost year old
> >version of the logging program? Or their page should be updated to
> indicate
> >for $18 you would get the current version and not the version they
> indicate
> >which is from Feb 2010.
> >
> >How can you all use logging program software that is "old" and not
> upgraded?
> >I couldn't imagine going more then a release or 2 of N1MM without
> updating.
> >How do you work with a contest where the rules are changing since the last
> >run of the contest? That seems to be at least a recent and recurring
> >situation with contests where there are at least subtle but sometimes
> larger
> >changes in the rules, what's a multiplier, etc. If your version isn't up
> to
> >date, doesn't that present problems? I guess if you are focused solely on
> >logging contacts, and the exchange info isn't changing, then an old
> version
> >might just work fine, but it certainly wouldn't highlight new mults or
> >possibly provide support for some rule changes that could be software
> >related such as band change timers, etc.
> >
> >I'd love to have both up and running to see which I like better and,
> >probably more so, to help out others that have questions on getting things
> >setup with similar equipment. I know in my local club, I only recommend
> N1MM
> >because it's the only one I could actually help the person with if they
> had
> >questions. I couldn't even suggest Writelog because I wouldn't want them
> to
> >have an issue, in Writelog's case spend $30, and I could go over and help
> >them. Sure there are others that can help, but I personally would only
> >recommend something I've used and could directly help them with.
> >
> >I'm sure Writelog is a very good program since there are top contesters
> >using it and $30/yr isn't worth arguing about if it's your tool of choice,
> >but not upgrading because of a fee seems like someone is losing out.
> >
> >David - K2DSL
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Jerry Flanders <jeflanders at comcast.net
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Check www.writelog.com . They have a "newbie special" for $18.
> >> Intended as a trial, but fully featured.
> >>
> >> I have been using WL for ten years or so. Back then it was twice the
> >> price initially, and then an annual fee of $30 or so just to maintain
> >> it. That money was and still is the best money I ever spent on
> >> something for the shack.
> >>
> >> It is an even better deal now, and my yearly cost is less because I
> >> don't upgrade every year.
> >>
> >> Since you are already comfortable with a different package, YMMV.
> >>
> >> Jerry W4UK
> >>
> >> At 07:07 AM 1/13/2011, David Levine wrote:
> >> >Cheryl,
> >> >
> >> >I'd like to try Writelog. I've used N1MM for 2 years now. Can I *try*
> >> >Writelog or do I need to pay $30 to find out I prefer N1MM?
> >> >
> >> >My guess is that I'm so comfortable with N1MM and know how to work it
> for
> >> >what I need, that like you return to WL, I'd return to N1MM because it
> is
> >> >what I'm comfortable/familiar with. But I'd like to try it out and see.
> If
> >> I
> >> >need to pay $30 for even a brief test drive, I'm not interested.
> >> >
> >> >For N1MM, I tell folks all the time that it is comprehensive and
> complex,
> >> >but a typical user just needs to do the setup and learn the small set
> of
> >> >features they will initially use. Over time, there are additional
> features
> >> >to take advantage of, but there's no need to deal with everything in
> N1MM
> >> to
> >> >get started.
> >> >
> >> >73
> >> >K2DSL - David
> >> >
> >> >On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Cheryl Whitlock <cherwhit at gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I agree with Andrei. Writelog and MMTTY are the way to go.
> >> > >
> >> > > I guess it depends on what you start out with and for me it was
> >> Writelog at
> >> > > Field Day in the late 1990s. Tom, KE4KWE sat me down and taught me
> how
> >> it
> >> > > worked. Before that I had been running machine RTTY; a C-64 with a
> AEA
> >> > > interface; and a Radio Shack Model IV with a Hal terminal unit and
> >> ROM-116
> >> > > interface. That Field Day with Writelog was my first experience in
> >> > > contesting and I loved it.
> >> > >
> >> > > I know a lot of you swear by N1MM and I gave it a try, but I keep
> >> coming
> >> > > back to Writelog.
> >> > >
> >> > > 73,
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheryl, AA4YL
> >>
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> Dick Flanagan K7VC
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