[RTTY] BARTG COMMENTS

[William Smith]

I have also noticed that several operators were in too big of a hurry. As a 
consequence, they need to be aware that they are missing out on confirmed QSOs. 
Crowded and/or degraded band conditions, as we saw, call for more care in both 
sending and receiving your ID and exchange from both ends. I throw in more IDs 
and more repeats of the exchange when I detect weak signals, or for DX. Once the 
rhythm of a run is broken, it is a good idea to ID again along with multiple 
repeats. Under bad conditions, assuming that the pouncer has your correct call 
sign, or exchange, could very well be wishful thinking.  I got the feeling that 
some people don't like to repeat any info, when they are trying to run. This 
shows disregard for the station that can't get good copy, but is trying to log a 
QSO anyway. You should remember that pouncers are trying to move from contact to 
contact also, and a question may arise during the QSO regarding your ID, or the 
exchange, due to bad copy.  Good communicators, aka contesters, should care more 
about successful QSOs, even if it takes awhile, than they do about a Q-rate that 
will end up being bogus anyway. A good contester should try to empathize with 
the distant end. I agree that under clear, solid copy that minimal repeats and 
dispensing with redundant IDs is desirable , even if somewhat risky. But 
redundancy is essential to ensure completed QSOs when conditions are less than 
ideal. You can reduce NILs, if you try.

My 2 cents.
 73,
Bill N3XL



----- Original Message ----
From: jim <wb5aaa at windstream.net>
To: Dick White <whiter26 at sbcglobal.net>; RTTY Contesting <rtty at contesting.com>
Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 1:16:18 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] BARTG  COMMENTS

I think u are 100% correct with  these very short   exchanges.


Collecting more taxes than is absolutely necessary is legalized robbery. 
"Calvin Coolidge" 30th Pres of U.S.A(1923-1929)

from the shack of
WB5AAA
73 de JIM


-----Original Message-----
From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Dick White
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 12:11 PM
To: RTTY Contesting
Subject: [RTTY] BARTG COMMENTS

I had some fun in the BARTG SPRINT> Worked 186 Q's and a score of 49,104
points.

There were two posts about the BARTG exchange that I disagree with. Both
operators stated all they need from a call was the serial number. They did
not want the call sign. I sent NR NR NR KS0M as my exchange in S&P. Here is
one reason why sending only the serial number can be a problem. The band was
crowded, I answered a call, when he replied all I got was "KS0" and callers
on each side of him blasted his reply and I could not copy. I sent "AGN
AGN". Due to the QRM I never got his exchange. I use a 250 HZ filter in
contests and the two close by calls were on the edge of my band pass. I was
going to call him again but then I copied him sending "TU KS0M QRZ BARTG" He
evidently copied the exchange of one of the other close by station who sent
a serial number only. I did not send an exchange. Had the one sending a
number only exchange added hic call, the op I was trying to work would have
realized it was not from me. As a result, he is not in my log, I lost a
contact and he will lose a contact because and maybe be penalized because he
is not in my log. We both wasted out time.
You can keep you exchange too short. I want to make sure in an exchange that
we both know who we are working.

73  Dick  KS0M

Richard C. "Dick" White
Fulton, MO. 65251  U.S.A.
whiter26 at sbcglobal.net

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply.
Speak kindly. Leave the rest to GOD.

Amateur Radio Station - KS0M

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