akozak at hourglass.com
Sun Jul 31 21:26:22 PDT 2011
You're right, of course, but then what's the point of spreading everyone out over 15 kHz if you're never going to listen over the whole range? Especially with RTTY, a bunch of operators chasing the DX station up and down the band just creates a whole bunch of signals that can't be decoded because they're all on top of one another.
The ST0R pileups are (IMO) outside the norm and I would think the DX operators could help themselves considerably by:
A. One continent at a time
B. Be cognizant of propagation on the band
C. By the numbers
The guy running phone on 17m this afternoon was doing just that, listening on one frequency and he was making excellent QSO rates.
From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Fred Souto Maior
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:01 PM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] ST0R
Usually you can find people calling them blind 1, 2 kcs up when they are working stns 5, 6 up. Those guys never stop to find last station worked or to see if the op is going up the band after each qso, or going down ... they only put 1 kc up and start to call and call and call all the time ... of course they never will make the qso.
And of course they will make a lot of QRM to the DX stn calling only 1 up. But there are operators and OPERATORS ... what we can do ??? Best regards
Fred - PY7ZZ
Em 31/07/2011 19:09, Nelson Moyer escreveu:
> They aren't THAT difficult to work! I found success by calling in
> openings when I couldn't find the last QSO. Granted, there aren't
> always opening with RTTY bandwidth and a short split range, but it
> worked for two bands that way
> (17 and 15 meters), and I didn't spend more than 30 min. to an hour
> calling from Iowa with 500 watts and a TH-11 on a 50 ft. tower. For
> the third band (20 meters), I found the last station worked slightly
> above the pileup and called on that frequency three times. Third time
> was charm. I haven't printed them on 30 meter RTTY yet.
> I spent much more time listening than calling. If more stations did
> that, it would be easier to work them because we could find the
> station being worked easier. Calling incessantly on RTTY only jams the
> split for everyone. The pileup discipline has been nonexistent on all
> modes except CW, probably because fewer ops nowadays can copy and send
> CW at 30 wpm ;)
> Nelson, KU0A
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rtty-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Dick White
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 3:57 PM
> To: RTTY Contesting
> Subject: [RTTY] ST0R
> There will probably be many frustrating stories about the ST0R
> DXpedition. I had a harrowing experience yesterday working them on 20
> meter RTTY. I was at the rig 5 hours. I was called by ST0R 4 times.
> The first 3 times my computer program locked up when I tried to send
> my "DX REPLY" macro. I finally got a 4th reply and I sent my reply and
> did not use any macros. What a relief to a frustrating afternoon. Got
> them on 20 meters at 0135z. I am one happy camper. Now to get them on CW.
> 73 Dick KS0M
> Richard C. "Dick" White
> Fulton, Missouri 65251 U.S.A.
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