[RTTY] Hyphens ( was Contesting too long?)

Jeff Blaine keepwalking188 at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 18 13:59:14 PDT 2011


The space/hyphen debate is well covered in the archives.

But for me, the biggest help I can offer to a new guy is to put a space before and after their transmission.  When a guy replies to 
my CQ with his call sign (in some cases just once) and not offset by spaces, I am left to decipher where the guy's call starts and 
stops.

Of course, in a perfect SNR case, the copy will be perfect and it's easy to squelch the screen to avoid jibbish - so the space is 
not so critical.  But in the more "normal" case, especially with DX, you will have the squelch either off or set very low.  And here 
that extra space before and after is what offsets your call from the noise.

73, Jeff ACØC
www.ac0c.com

-----Original Message----- 
From: Fabi va2up
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:42 PM
To: al9a at mtaonline.net ; n0as.dx at gmail.com ; rtty contesting rttycontesting
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Hyphens ( was Contesting too long?)


I do use the mixed hyphens thing with relative success in numeric exchanges and not being asked for repeats : 599 066-066-066.  The 
extra speed gained allows me to put in the 3rd exchange in just about the same time as in 599 066 066. In time the 3rd repeat has 
proven (to me) more useful than the no hyphen approach and using 2 repats. The space after 599 takes care of the USOS issue. My 5x 
exchange repat macro has no hyphens though, just in case.

73,

Fabi  va2up
http://sites.google.com/site/va2upcontesting/



> From: al9a at mtaonline.net
> To: n0as.dx at gmail.com; rtty at contesting.com
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:25:45 -0800
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Hyphens ( was Contesting too long?)
>
> Ken,
>
> I am gradually changing my contest macros to include hyphens between the
> numbers of an exchange. For example, in the just completed JARTS contest I
> sent "599-67-67". The hyphens prevent USOS from unnecessary shifting
> between the numbers. I've put a stop watch on my macros and including the
> hyphens in place of the spaces between the numbers results in a faster
> transmission time. If the exchange contains alphabetic characters, like a
> state or Provence, don't use the hyphens, just leave spaces. For example,
> in "599 AK AK" USOS will unshift from numbers to chars on the space after
> the 599. The following alpha characters do not need another shift back into
> numbers. Including hyphens, such as "AK-AK" will cause unnecessary shifts
> and longer transmission times.
>
> 73,
> Gary AL9A
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Anderson, N0AS" <n0as.dx at gmail.com>
> To: "RTTY Contesting" <rtty at contesting.com>
> Sent: October 18, 2011 11:42 AM
> Subject: [RTTY] Hyphens ( was Contesting too long?)
>
>
> > I've only been running rtty for about 3 months. I get the dots
> > thing............can be annoying.
> >
> > I sometimes use hyphens between numbers, e.g., 599-599. Not a good idea?
> > Or is the hyphen thing something else?
> >
> > Ken
> > Amateur Radio Callsign: N0AS
> >
> > Irritating nearly everyone since 1956.
> >
> > ARRL: arrl.org
> > Twin City DX Association: tcdxa.org
> > INDEXA: indexa.org
> > FISTS: fists.org
> >
> > On Oct 18, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Ktfrog007 at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> Is there a way I can make a contribution?
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Kermit, AB1J (no longer using hyphens or dots)
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 10/18/2011 5:18:05 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
> >> dezrat1242 at yahoo.com writes:
> >>
> >> 6. You visit Makoto Mori's hometown and are appalled to find there is
> >> no shrine. You form a committee.
> >>
> >>
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