[RTTY] Hyphens ( was Contesting too long?)

Tue Oct 18 15:11:22 PDT 2011

Ken,

If you're using N1MM Logger for contesting, there is an option to 
suppress multiple line feeds. Go into the DI-1 menu > Settings > 
General/MMTTY Setup tab. In the left column, the third item down is 
"Remove Excess Linefeeds from RX Window". Enable that checkbox. The 
annoyance of some operators "wasting paper" (in the old days of 
mechanical printers) will be resolved.

Other contest programs might have this feature as well, but someone else 
will have to comment about that.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
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On 10/18/2011 4:47 PM, Ken Anderson, N0AS wrote:
> Thanks All,
>
> You've got me pretty well squared away. What you've suggested is pretty much what I've been doing. I should probably shorten up my macros a character or two, tho (K, DE).
>
> I'm in the contests to work DX primarily, so macro length isn't a big concern for me - but I certainly understand it is for contesters and I respect that.
>
> One thing I found annoying in the jarts was a few operators sending multiple line feeds (correct term?) before and in the middle of their transmission. Aw well, rtty is way too much fun, I should have picked it up years ago. :)  In three months I've worked 85 entities with 100 watts or less with a tribander at 35 feet from the blackhole known as 0-land.
>
> Ken
> Amateur Radio Callsign: N0AS
>
> Irritating nearly everyone since 1956.
>
> ARRL: arrl.org
> Twin City DX Association: tcdxa.org
> INDEXA: indexa.org
> FISTS: fists.org
>
> On Oct 18, 2011, at 3:59 PM, "Jeff Blaine"<keepwalking188 at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>
>> The space/hyphen debate is well covered in the archives.
>>
>> But for me, the biggest help I can offer to a new guy is to put a space before and after their transmission.  When a guy replies to
>> my CQ with his call sign (in some cases just once) and not offset by spaces, I am left to decipher where the guy's call starts and
>> stops.
>>
>> Of course, in a perfect SNR case, the copy will be perfect and it's easy to squelch the screen to avoid jibbish - so the space is
>> not so critical.  But in the more "normal" case, especially with DX, you will have the squelch either off or set very low.  And here
>> that extra space before and after is what offsets your call from the noise.
>>
>> 73, Jeff ACØC
>> www.ac0c.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fabi va2up
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:42 PM
>> To: al9a at mtaonline.net ; n0as.dx at gmail.com ; rtty contesting rttycontesting
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Hyphens ( was Contesting too long?)
>>
>>
>> I do use the mixed hyphens thing with relative success in numeric exchanges and not being asked for repeats : 599 066-066-066.  The
>> extra speed gained allows me to put in the 3rd exchange in just about the same time as in 599 066 066. In time the 3rd repeat has
>> proven (to me) more useful than the no hyphen approach and using 2 repats. The space after 599 takes care of the USOS issue. My 5x
>> exchange repat macro has no hyphens though, just in case.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fabi  va2up
>> http://sites.google.com/site/va2upcontesting/
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: al9a at mtaonline.net
>>> To: n0as.dx at gmail.com; rtty at contesting.com
>>> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:25:45 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Hyphens ( was Contesting too long?)
>>>
>>> Ken,
>>>
>>> I am gradually changing my contest macros to include hyphens between the
>>> numbers of an exchange. For example, in the just completed JARTS contest I
>>> sent "599-67-67". The hyphens prevent USOS from unnecessary shifting
>>> between the numbers. I've put a stop watch on my macros and including the
>>> hyphens in place of the spaces between the numbers results in a faster
>>> transmission time. If the exchange contains alphabetic characters, like a
>>> state or Provence, don't use the hyphens, just leave spaces. For example,
>>> in "599 AK AK" USOS will unshift from numbers to chars on the space after
>>> the 599. The following alpha characters do not need another shift back into
>>> numbers. Including hyphens, such as "AK-AK" will cause unnecessary shifts
>>> and longer transmission times.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Gary AL9A
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ken Anderson, N0AS"<n0as.dx at gmail.com>
>>> To: "RTTY Contesting"<rtty at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: October 18, 2011 11:42 AM
>>> Subject: [RTTY] Hyphens ( was Contesting too long?)
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've only been running rtty for about 3 months. I get the dots
>>>> thing............can be annoying.
>>>>
>>>> I sometimes use hyphens between numbers, e.g., 599-599. Not a good idea?
>>>> Or is the hyphen thing something else?
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>> Amateur Radio Callsign: N0AS
>>>>
>>>> Irritating nearly everyone since 1956.
>>>>
>>>> ARRL: arrl.org
>>>> Twin City DX Association: tcdxa.org
>>>> INDEXA: indexa.org
>>>> FISTS: fists.org
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Ktfrog007 at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way I can make a contribution?
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Kermit, AB1J (no longer using hyphens or dots)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 10/18/2011 5:18:05 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
>>>>> dezrat1242 at yahoo.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. You visit Makoto Mori's hometown and are appalled to find there is
>>>>> no shrine. You form a committee.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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