[RTTY] (no subject)
Dick Flanagan
dick at k7vc.com
Mon Jan 16 16:07:58 PST 2012
Writelog scrolls down (not up) so you don't have to chase call signs.
The call sign stays in one place until the window fills and starts to
fill from the top again. It is too bad that N1MM doesn't have that feature.
Dick
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Dick Flanagan K7VC
dick at k7vc.com
On 1/16/2012 3:41 PM, Jeff Blaine wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I’m saying get rid of that last CR/LF. A guy will be trying to get his mouse over your exchange and then that CR/LF will come along and bump everything up. Not a help. N1MM has a feature to kill off some of these CR/LF but I don’t think it will filter that case.
>
> 73/jeff/ac0c
> www.ac0c.com
> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
>
>
>
> From: Mike
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 5:27 PM
> To: Jeff Blaine
> Cc: rtty at contesting.com ; k0rc at citlink.net
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] (no subject)
>
> Your right Jeff. There should be a space before the last "(CR/LF)". Just got lost in the e-mail line wrap-around.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Jeff Blaine<keepwalking188 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> You may also want to drop that last CR/LF in favor of a space. Otherwise you make the guy on the other end chase you up the page unnecessarily.
>
> 73/jeff/ac0c
> www.ac0c.com
> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
>
>
>
> From: Mike
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:59 PM
> To: rtty at contesting.com
> Cc: k0rc at citlink.net ; Jeff Blaine
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] (no subject)
>
>
> Regarding the sending of the call at the end of the exchange:
>
> a.. If I am running I'll only send the call of the station I'm answering at the end of the exchange (the call is always sent at the beginning of the exchange) when: a. Several stations answered my CQ and are still calling when start sending my exchange, or; b. When I think I may have started sending the exchange when he may still be transmitting, or; c. At the end of the "K1XXX TU(CR/LF)Now K2XX 599 VA VA K2XX (CR/LF)" exchange.
>
> b.. I don't send the other station's call, or my call, at the end of my S&P exchange.
>
> Regarding "a." above, I sometimes still don't send the call at the end of the exchange if I know my signal is strong into his location or the other stations stop sending their calls about the same time the station I am answering did, or the other stations calling were not as loud as the station I answer.
>
> You have to get a feel for when to send the call at the end of the exchange. Suspect I send the other station's call at the end of the exchange about 50% of the time.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Jeff Blaine<keepwalking188 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Robert you are right.
>
> The place to get the run station's call is off his CQ. Not off the
> exchange.
>
> 73/jeff/ac0c
> www.ac0c.com
> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Chudek - K0RC
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:26 PM
> To: rtty at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] (no subject)
>
> "Think about it.
> I am doing S/P tuning across his frequency and I see:
> k1xx 599<exch> <exch> k1xx"
>
> When I am in S&P and I come across this exchange, all I know is the
> station transmitting is not K1XX. The exchange is configured for the
> benefit of two stations trying to make a QSO as efficiently as possible.
> It is not configured to give a S&P station some advantage.
>
> "Who is the calling station?"
> As a S&P station, you will just have to wait and see.
>
> "Who is the station running the frequency?
> As a S&P station, you will just have to wait and see.
>
> "So who should I call?"
> As a S&P station, you will just have to wait and see.
>
> "Are you saying I should just send out my call without knowing who I am
> trying to contact."
> Absolutely NOT! You should never call blind! As a S&P station, you will just
> have to wait and see.
>
> "How about this:
> k1xx 599<exch> <exch> k1xx de w6wrt"
> That's just a waste of the transmitting stations time (and the receiving
> station as well).
>
> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On 1/16/2012 12:57 PM, Richard Cariello wrote:
> > Bob,
> > That's what makes this a horse race. As the person who is running the
> > frequency the more time he gets his call out the better will be his rate.
> >
> > Think about it.
> > I am doing S/P tuning across his frequency and I see:
> > k1xx 599<exch> <exch> k1xx
> >
> > Who is the calling station?
> > Who is the station running the frequency?
> > So who should I call?
> > Are you saying I should just send out my call without knowing who I am
> > trying to contact. I see this allot but that station never gets called
> > because he has already been worked, just adding QRM to the frequency.
> >
> > You come across this type of operation allot during SSB contests. The
> > station will run signing as "QRZ". After a while I simply call the station
> > as "QRZ" but at least the next time I tune across this station I can at
> > least ID his voice.
> >
> > How about this:
> > k1xx 599<exch> <exch> k1xx de w6wrt
> >
> > As the station doing S/P this would let me see who is running the
> > frequency and give the station he is working the second chance to know it
> > is his report. Now I will know as the S/P station if I need him or not.
> >
> > Rich AA2MF
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
> >
> >> He is not signing as the other station. The other station already knows
> >> he is working W6WRT. It's a waste of time sending W6WRT again.
> >>
> >> Bill also knows his call sign, so there's no benefit for him seeing it
> >> again either.
> >>
> >> There is a benefit. That is when the first K1XX gets covered up by "tail
> >> enders" and "long callers". Nobody knows who the report is being sent to
> >> (other than W6WRT). Having the call sign on the end ensures the intended
> >> station knows he is being worked.
> >>
> >> I lost count of the number of times I received "4:XC-ALU4C 599 CA CA BK"
> >> on my screen. Then I simply WAIT until the station resends his report
> >> and I can tell whether he is working me or someone else.
> >>
> >> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/16/2012 8:13 AM, Richard Cariello wrote:
> >>> Bill W6WRT,
> >>> I am just getting back into RTTY myself and greatly enjoying the mode.
> >>>
> >>> I am wondering why you are signing as the other station:
> >>>
> >>> ME: K1XX 599<EXCH> <EXCH> K1XX
> >>>
> >>> I would use:
> >>>
> >>> ME: k1xx 599<exch> <exch> w6wrt (your callsign)
> >>>
> >>> If conditions are bad then double the callsigns as needed to make the
> >>> QSO.
> >>>
> >>> Rich AA2MF
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Duane Budd wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bill said:
> >>>>
> >>>> "When I'm running, I want to verify two things from the calling
> >>>> station:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. He's working me and not another station on the frequency that I
> >>>> can't
> >>>> hear.
> >>>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. That he has my callsign correct.
> >>>>
> >>>> Unless the calling station sends my call at some point, how would I
> >>>> verify
> >>>> the above?
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's how I like it when I'm running:
> >>>>
> >>>> ME: CQ TEST W6WRT W6WRT CQ
> >>>> HIM: K1XX K1XX K1XX (or only twice if condx good, never just once)
> >>>> ME: K1XX 599<EXCH> <EXCH> K1XX
> >>>> HIM: W6WRT 599<EXCH> <EXCH> K1XX
> >>>> ME: K1XX TU W6WRT CQ
> >>>>
> >>>> There is some redundancy in the above, but during a busy contest when
> >>>> often
> >>>> there are several stations on the same frequency, some redundancy is a
> >>>> necessity, IMO. Otherwise you are likely to log the wrong station.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73, Bill W6WRT"
> >>>>
> >>>> And that is exactly the way I do it and for the same reasons.
> >>>>
> >>>> While I am not a pro like AA5AU, I enjoy RTTY contesting and it has
> >>>> become
> >>>> my favorite operating joy...
> >>>>
> >>>> Budd, W5BEN
> >>>> dcbudd at embarqmail.com
> >>>> Johnson City, TN
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> 73,
> Mike, K4GMH
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