[RTTY] JARTS RTTY Coming Soon!

Tue Oct 9 01:11:12 EDT 2012

Me thinks the organizers see us as "CHUM" to bring in the contest sharks Bob
!!!
Remember, those 48 hour guys wouldn't have anyone to score with if us poor
decrepit few hours here - few hour there guys didn't "play" !

How great would those 48 hour contests be if all the "Part-time" guys sat
them out ????

Rick - WU6W

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From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Robert Chudek -
K0RC
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 1:49 PM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] JARTS RTTY Coming Soon!

Let me throw in some additional ways of looking at this topic...

If there are no adjustments made for special circumstances, then why do they
even bother to hold the Special Olympics?

Next thought... who decided that 48 hours is the best contest length in the
first place? Why didn't they consider 24 hours instead?

I am not saying there should be an award for everyone who participates, but
recognizing obvious limitations of the participants within the contesting
community should be given serious (re)consideration.

Let's consider if there were 12, 24, and 48 hour periods within a contest. A
big concession is, yes, it is more work for the contest sponsor to manage
the awards. But for the fellow who must work on Saturday, he's automatically
relegated to the "I'll get on just to improve my skills and give out a few
points." There's absolutely no chance he can be competitive in this 48-hour
event. If there were a 12-hour classification, the competitor within me says
I would give that a serious shot, competing with all the other fellows who
can't / won't devote the full 48 hours.

We're back to the "who and why did 48 hours become the 'standard' in the
first place?" Does anyone remember when Sweepstakes ran for weeks? This type
of change is not unprecedented in large contests.

Personally, my contesting is similar to Ed... I'll get on for the enjoyment
and keeping my skill level up. But I know I would be more devoted and
competitive if there were shorter "goals" that would give me a chance to
paper my wall with a certificate. I would have more incentive to stay in
front of the radio instead of wandering off to check Facebook, the weather
outside, or simply sipping a cup of coffee while watching the TV for a
half-hour.

These are thoughts for discussion.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN

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On 10/8/2012 2:14 PM, Rick wrote:
> "Think about what our contests would be like if the only participants 
> were those who thought they had a chance to win!"
>
> Very well said ED.
> This is a point most organizers and avid "to Win" contesters do not 
> even think about and they should.
> How many times have you been "brushed off" by some rabid, "going for 
> the gold", guy ?? I still remember those experiences when I was a 
> rookie contester !!
>
> Yes, we have an ageing group in the Ham community and some of us old 
> guys just don't have the stamina to put in 30 - 48 hours.
> The most fun I personally have are the NAQP contests because they are 
> do-able for me.
>
> Anyhow, glad you mentioned that point and I hope some more awareness 
> is generated from it.
>
> Rick - WU6W
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ed Muns
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 7:34 AM
> To: '7L4IOU'
> Cc: rtty at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] JARTS RTTY Coming Soon!
>
> I agree that 48-hour contests are a physical and mental challenge that 
> I personally haven't mastered.  I've never been able to stay conscious 
> for the full two days without breaks.  But this shortcoming is not the 
> only thing that lowers my chance of winning.  If a good operator at a 
> bigger and/or better-located station participates, then my chances of
winning decrease.
> If not, then my chances of winning increase.  These are all things I 
> have no control over.
>
> So, I've decided that "the journey is more important (and, satisfying) 
> than the destination".  I can control "the journey", that is, whether 
> I participate and how hard I try to operate the best I can from 
> whatever station I'm at.  If I win at some level, that is wonderful 
> too, but its not the main reason I contest.  I contest because I enjoy 
> operating with high activity and improving my operating skill.
>
> For example, I operated 9 hours of the 24 allowed for single-ops in 
> the CQP (California QSO Party) this past weekend.  There was no way I 
> could be competitive, but this didn't keep me from participating as 
> strong as I could for the 9 hours I could get on.  I had two huge 
> reasons for not participating, but I ignored them.  First, my 20, 40 
> and 80 meter antennas have not been repaired from last winter's 
> damage.  Second, I had work events that I could not miss.  But, there 
> were 9 hours I could operate on 10, 15 and 160 and I thoroughly enjoyed
it.
>
> Think about what our contests would be like if the only participants 
> were those who thought they had a chance to win!  There would be very 
> few stations to work and contesting would die.  Most contest 
> participation continues to increase because it is an ideal time to
operate.
>
> I hope there is lots of participation in the JARTS WW RTTY Contest 
> because that makes it successful and more fun for everyone.
>
> Ed W0YK
>
>   
> Steve, ZC4LI, replied:
>> 48 hour SOAB Category is a bit too much in this day and age, for me 
>> anyway.
>> I and no doubt many others like to compete to win and unless you do 
>> the full 48 hours then you do not give yourself a chance.
>> If you do not have a chance then there is no point in entering the 
>> contest.
>>
>> Maybe you would consider putting in more categories say SOSB,  and 24 
>> and 12 hour cats for us oldies who can't whack the 48 anymore.
>
> Hisami, 7L4IOU, wrote:
>> The JARTS WW RTTY is held on Oct. 20-21.
>>
>> We have the great pleasure to invite you to the 21th WW RTTY CONTEST 
>> conducted by the Japanese Amateur Radio Teleprinter Society, JARTS.
>>
>> 2012 Rules and 2011 Results are online at http://www.jarts.jp
>>
>> if you have any questions, please email to questions at jarts.jp
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