[RTTY] US call signs (BARTG)

[Rex Maner]

The big down fall for me operating in the 7th call area is that the G 
station won't put any effort into working me as he already has worked a 
station in AZ over 1500 miles better positioned for propogation into  or 
somone in eastern MT who is physically 1000 miles closer.

Rex  K7QQ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm at arrl.net>
To: <rtty at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] US call signs (BARTG)


> In those other contests, I count as an 8th area mult even though,
> geographically, I'm in the 3rd call area.
>
> Indeed, you'll get credit for an 8th area mult working me in a BARTG
> contest too since I don't sign with a suffix (nor do I submit logs for
> those contests)
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Roger Cooke <g3ldi at g3ldi.co.uk> wrote:
>> That sounds like a complete paradox to me! If they don't add their call 
>> area
>> then how are
>> we supposed to know where they are and if they are a mult or not?
>>
>> 73 de Confused of Swardeston  Roger, G3LDI
>>
>> On 09/01/2013 10:53, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>
>> All those contests use US Call Areas as mults, but they don't require
>> stations to add their correct call area as a suffix.  BARTG is unique in
>> that outdated requirement.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On 1/9/2013 5:50 AM, pcooper wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Well, thanks for all the responses!
>> Yes, I do appreciate that the comparison between G, GU etc and W is not a
>> good one, but it was the only way I could think of explaining it.
>>
>> Now, several folk kindly emailed me direct to say things like - Yes, but
>> G.GU etc are different DXCC's, with which I agree.
>> By the same token, KL7/KH6/KP2 are ALSO different DXCC's, but you still 
>> find
>> some in RTTY contests operating from the "lower 48".
>> I even got a KH8 in one contest that was on mainland America.
>>
>> I don't know the answer to this, but does the FCC require that you sign
>> differently if you are operating away from your home address?
>> In the UK, if we are operating somewhere other than our designated home
>> address, we must sign /P for any temporary address, or /A from an
>> "alternative" address, where the alternative is somewhere designated on 
>> our
>> licence.
>>
>> Let's say that you are W6XXX operating from Florida, and you enter the 
>> BARTG
>> contest as W6XXX only.
>> If your log was to be classed as a check-log only, because you weren't
>> following the rules, would you be annoyed?
>> Maybe contests that use US call areas as mults ought to enforce this part 
>> of
>> the rule?
>> Apart from the BARTG contest, there is the EA RTTY contest, DL-DX, DRCG 
>> LDC,
>> SARTG, JARTS, and WAEDC all use US (and some also include VE/JA/VK) call
>> areas as mults, so please don't just single out BARTG for criticism.
>>
>> Thanks again for all the comments.
>>
>> 73 de Phil GU0SUP
>> (definitely in GU!)
>>
>>
>>
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