[RTTY] ARRL attack on current RTTY users

[Jeff Blaine]

Don, I think you have hit it again.  There are two issues here.

1. Defeat of the current proposal.  This is not the time to debate it or 
change it.  The FCC is lined up to approve this unless significant 
opposition is displayed by the general ham public (as was the case in 
2005-2007 when this was last proposed by the ARRL).

2. Alternative proposals which may be more workable with the rest of the ham 
community and would allow some pactor/winmail activity on the HF bands. 
But this is a project for another day.

We need to have as many hams provide comments to the FCC directly as 
possible to achieve #1.

73/jeff/ac0c
www.ac0c.com
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Don Hill AA5AU
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:20 PM
To: RTTY at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] ARRL attack on current RTTY users

Unfortunately this is NOT what the ARRL petition is about. These stations 
will be free to operate wherever they want in the
digital/CW portion of the bands. If they want to set up on 14085 kHz, they 
will be able to do that. And they won't give a damn who's
already occupying the frequency because they probably won't even be present 
at the radio.

Sure, it's a great idea. Allow these stations their own little segment of 
the band and let them send however many files they want
and they can handle emergency traffic during disasters and such. Great idea. 
Too bad the ARRL is not proposing that instead.

Don AA5AU

-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of N4BE_Jim
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:10 PM
To: RTTY at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] ARRL attack on current RTTY users

Not sure what ARRLs motivation is.  Maybe get more boat owners to become 
hams so they can use the mail boxes, maybe sell more ads
for special modem equipment or software,... But ham radio is (or at least 
was) intended to be for public service such as emergency
communications, message traffic, education, etc.  many of the contests, such 
as FD, are intended to stress people and equipment to
test readiness in emergencies.  The various contests do the same but use 
very short exchanges which may or may not be realistic in
an emergency when local entities need to pass larger messages or files.  The 
MARS emphasis on modes such as WINMOR (WL2K) and
interoperability are for local agency support in emergencies.  Mailbox 
stations exist for that purpose on dedicated frequencies.
The gov't is pushing for interoperability between MARS services as well as 
amateur, and using both internet and RF. The objective is
to provide some level of comms if the internet should go down.  So the FCC 
wou  ld probably be leaning toward this objective.
Collecting RTTY contest certificates helps ensure equipment, but can old 
school RTTY serve local agencies sending volumes of traffic
larger than typical RST and number?

So with that as an objective, I could see defining a handful of specific 
frequency channels in the ham bands for wider bandwidth
comms, much like MARS uses fixed frequencies.  You couldn't deviate from 
those specific frequencies much.  Mailbox stations would be
assigned to these channels based on geographic location for example. 
Propagation prediction software would select bands and
channels based on time and solar conditions (WINMOR already does this).  And 
to make things more convenient, the frequencies chosen
could be those that are accessible by entry level licensees, which might 
move them further up the bands.  So there wouldn't
necessarily be point to point "chat" QSOs on 3khz modes at any arbitrary 
frequency.  Enforcing frequency usage to only allocated
channels could be a challenge however, but it is doable.

My 2 cents worth.

Jim N4BE. NNN0PIJ

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