[RTTY] Courtesy

Thu Oct 3 13:34:46 EDT 2013

Hi,

just my view as a small pistol contester: If that P5 multiplier works me 
I don't care if he sends me his name and qth and even te name of his 
grand mother and the make of his computer. For all te others please 
hurry up :-)

Just kidding...

The only thing we can do is to try and give the good example. Make the 
exchanges as short as possible and for me that means finishing the QSO 
with 'OH2BH TU OQ6A CQ'
Noone will be offended by this I guess?

And an other courtesy: I answer all qsl!

Op 3/10/2013 19:22, Robert Chudek - K0RC schreef:
> Jeff,
>
> I understand and agree with your assessment of overall contest 
> exchange efficiency. I smile at the "GL" that is often included in the 
> exchange. Fortunately, I am *not* counting on "Luck", whether good or 
> bad, to fulfill my contest goal of achieving the maximum score 
> possible within the time I have available to operate.
>
> But that aside, CQWW solicited people to complete an online poll 
> regarding their contest experiences and thoughts last spring. The 
> results of that poll were posted a while back, here: 
> http://cqww.com/blog/?p=150
>
> The very first question was:
>
> *Which is the best description of your operating interest in the CQ WW 
> Contest?
>
> *
> Serious competitor trying to win a certificate or plaque:
> 1675 - 31.6%
> Part time operator trying for the highest score possible
> 1831 - 34.6%
> Chasing contacts for awards:
> 546 - 10.3%
> Having fun and giving points to other:
> 1023 - 19.3%
> Other:
> 217 - 4.1%
> Total
> 5292 - 100%
>
> I suspect most of the fellows on this reflector fall into one of the 
> first two responses. But when you total the last three categories, 
> one-third of the operators in your log are less likely to know or care 
> about contest exchange efficiency.
>
> As someone stated before, I am not overly concerned with making a 
> contact in a 'less than efficient' manner when that QSO will be 
> multiplied by the number of multipliers in my log. I have been known 
> to hit the Ctrl+K combination and type a personal response from time 
> to time... most often to a friend who I know or a station who is 
> obviously not in the league of WØYK, or AA5AU, or K3LR, or K9CT, or... 
> etc.
>
> I do believe it is good to discuss operator efficiencies in general 
> and it will help those in the last 1/3 to move up into the 2/3 area 
> when they choose to change their contesting focus.
>
> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>
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>
> On 10/3/2013 11:26 AM, Jeff Blaine wrote:
>> The format for the best exchange is pretty well fine-tuned.  And as 
>> with the /QRP, the more stuff you put on the line, the more 
>> unproductive it is.  GL is another example of that.  The direct cost 
>> is in the time it takes to send the GL and the space.  Multiplied 
>> times the number of QSO exchanges. The indirect cost is present also, 
>> for example a guy misprinting GL for something else in rough copy 
>> times and needing a repeat, or waiting, or skipping you to move onto 
>> the next guy causing you to miss a potential mult, etc.  So we have 
>> to add in some more time wasted that would be hard to figure out but 
>> must be present.
>>
>> This discussion thread on courtesy reminds me of the Pamplona bull 
>> races. When it's go-time, guys there are focused on the task and 
>> there is no time for pleasantries.  Nor should any be expected. It's 
>> a serious activity. And people who are there needing the 
>> touchie-feelie chit-chat would be well advised to stay off the 
>> streets when that event is happening.  For guys who want to "try it" 
>> - then they should respect the tradition enough to take a look at the 
>> way things are normally done.  Penalties in the bull races are severe 
>> and immediate - so runners are probably well motivated to prepare well.
>>
>> And while the penalty for not doing the RTTY exchange right does not 
>> cause a sudden rise in calcuim content as in the bull run case, the 
>> point is similar.  This kind of contest is needs to have maximum 
>> efficiency in mind as a priority.  A key goal of the contest is the 
>> maximum number of QSO in the allotted time, especially for those 
>> running un-assisted.  So anything that digresses from that key goal 
>> should properly be excluded.  And that includes unnecessary exchange 
>> elements (e.g. GL), problem causing unnecessary data exchange 
>> elements (e.g. /QRP) and confusion adding elements (e.g. DE when it's 
>> not your state).
>>
>> 73/jeff/ac0c
>> www.ac0c.com
>> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Magarelli
>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:47 AM
>> To: rtty at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Courtesy
>>
>> Following this courtesy on RTTY discussion line. I had the thought, 
>> would
>> it be to much time and data
>> not to only send TU but add GL to the courtesy response so it could
>> be TU GL
>> Just a thought.  Would like to hear the Groups thoughts TNX
>> Thomas (aka Tom)
>> WA2PNI
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of W4GKM
>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:55 AM
>> To: john; rtty at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Courtesy
>>
>> I go by Nick, but you can call me Nicholas or anything else, just as 
>> long as
>> you call me.  I appreciate all contacts.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: john
>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 7:40 AM
>> To: rtty at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Courtesy
>>
>> try "clyde",,, I go by john  w8wej
>> On 10/3/2013 02:08, Tom Osborne wrote:
>>> I know what  you mean Hank.  It grits me when someone sends 'Hi 
>>> Thomas.'
>>> I
>>> never use that name.  73
>>> Tom W7WHY
>>>
>>>
>>> There is NOTHING I hate more than people who doesn't know me from
>>> Adam, greeting me in a contest as Henry. Obviously, they don't know me
>>> because the only one who ever called me Henry was my mother and then
>>> only when she was mad.
>>>
>>> Artificial, imposed-by-rules, friendliness is worse than meaningless.
>>> It's stupid.
>>>
>>> Artificial,
>>> do-it-because-your-super-dooper-software-allows-you-to-do-it,
>>> friendliness is worse than meaningless, It's stupid.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Hank, W6SX
>>>
>>>
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