[RTTY] This is why you are having trouble with the reflector

RTTY rtty at contesting.com
Thu Apr 17 18:12:13 EDT 2014


I've noticed a few changes also. For some strange reason, some mail servers 
are doing reverse DNS lookups so if you're using your private e-mail SMTP 
server to send mail under your own domain, the message might bounce because 
the reverse DNS lookup returns your ISP's domain name instead of yours. Also, 
some e-mail servers are using RBL's to stop spam and your IP may show up in a 
spam list even though no spam comes from your system. Or a mail server uses a 
PBL which is a range of dynamic IP's which get blocked also. I don't know why  
mail systems are using these anti-spam methods because I've received very, 
very few spam messages in the past couple of years.

Jeff Stai <wk6i.jeff at gmail.com> wrote ..
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Jeff Stai* <wk6i.jeff at gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, April 16, 2014
> Subject: [RTTY] Test: bouncing? dumped?
> To: Mark Perrin <n7mq at comcast.net>
> Cc: REFL-RTTY <rtty at contesting.com>
> 
> 
> So here's the deal: Email servers send out rules to other servers on how to
> validate emails sent by them.
> 
> yahoo.com, hotmail.com, and comcast.net and others recently changed their
> rules. They are now saying to other servers that if the email address
> domain does not match the sending domain, those servers should reject those
> emails.
> 
> So because your email address domain (e.g. yahoo.com) does not match the
> sending domain (e.g. contesting.com) a whole bunch of servers are bouncing
> your reflector emails. And the reflectors are unsubscribing you because of
> too many bounces.
> 
> Other receiving servers - like gmail.com - are not bouncing the message but
> they are flagging them as spam. So you may look into your spam folder right
> now and see a whole bunch of valid emails from yahoo.com and company.
> 
> For example, the email I just got from
> n6hpx_du1 at yahoo.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','n6hpx_du1 at yahoo.com');>has
> the following warning attached to it from the gmail server:
> 
> "Be careful with this message. Our systems couldn't verify that this
> message was really sent by yahoo.com. You might want to avoid clicking
> links or replying with personal information.  Learn more..."
> 
> I don't know of an answer right now other that to advise you to find
> another email host if you are on one of these servers like yahoo.com. And
> for the rest of us to watch our spam folders.
> 
> Here are the technical details:
> 
> https://help.yahoo.com/kb/mail/SLN24016.html?impressions=true
> 
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-
breaks-mailing-lists.html
> 
> 73 jeff wk6i
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Mark Perrin
> <n7mq at comcast.net<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','n7mq at comcast.net');>
> > wrote:
> 
> > I got the same notice.  Not know and like you, seldom if ever post a note
> > to the reflector.
> >
> > Mark N7MQ
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/16/2014 5:19 PM, ve3vid wrote:
> >
> >> Just checking to see if my membership to this site is still good?
> >>
> >> Just got an email saying I've been dumped for "Too many bounces".  Don't
> >> know what that means. Nor have I posted to the group for a long time.
> >>
> >> Is this spam?
> >>
> >> David
> >> VY0/VE3VID
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Samsung tablet
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> >>
> >> -----
> >> No virus found in this message.
> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >> Version: 2014.0.4569 / Virus Database: 3882/7354 - Release Date: 04/16/14
> >>
> >
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> 
> 
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