[RTTY] From: RTTY

[RTTY]

Oh, and if you notice, I put my email address in both the To and CC of the prior message.  The relector obediently (as it should) copied them to the outbound message. 

This allows you to do a reply all and delete the rtty at contesting.com address to send email to the message author directly.

Al
AB2ZY

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From: RTTY [rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of RTTY [rtty at contesting.com]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:45 PM
To: rtty at contesting.com; Al Kozakiewicz
Cc: Al Kozakiewicz
Subject: Re: [RTTY] From: RTTY

You're blaming email providers for implementing best practices.  If yahoo publishes who's allowed to send on their behalf and gmail takes steps to reject email originating from sources claiming to be from yahoo but not on the list, that helps to cut back on a LOT of spam.  The real problem is that the concept of email reflectors like this was born in the early days of the Internet before web servers when spam wasn't a problem.  It has passed its prime, much like newsgroups.

The modern solution is web based forums.  Like them or not, at least they don't require email as an enabling technology and thus are not a vector for spam.

Al
AB2ZY


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From: RTTY [rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of RTTY [rtty at contesting.com]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:15 PM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] From: RTTY

It is a shame that the choice is to neuter the list software because
of the members who use providers that will not accept e-mail from the
list (or for whom their default e-mail behavior is to reject list
e-mail).

My suggestion is that those who are being unsubscribed due to bounces
get an account with one of the free e-mail providers not rejecting
list e-mail.

It seems strange that those providers causing the most problems have
interests in large advertising supported web based discussion groups

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 4/18/2014 12:51 PM, RTTY wrote:
> ORIGINAL MESSAGE:          (may be snipped)
>
> Yes, I'm well aware of the problem and I'm trying to find a solution.
> The software that the reflector uses, Mailman, only offers two choices:
> The From: field can be either the sender or the RTTY group. Making it
> the RTTY group causes the problem you mentioned above, but making it the
> sender causes the bounce problem. It's a dilemma.
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