[RTTY] From: RTTY

[RTTY]

 > The modern solution is web based forums.  Like them or not, at least
 > they don't require email as an enabling technology and thus are not a
 > vector for spam.

Web based forums are a blunt instrument when a scalpel is appropriate.
With web based forums one is locked into being on-line to participate
which may be fine for group based business environments but is very
limiting for users who do not have the bandwidth and time to do every-
thing on-line.

I web based forums to be much more shallow - prone to the quick SMS
type response - and not conducive to situations where one wants/needs
to research and bring outside sources into a discussion.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 4/18/2014 1:45 PM, RTTY wrote:
> You're blaming email providers for implementing best practices.  If yahoo publishes who's allowed to send on their behalf and gmail takes steps to reject email originating from sources claiming to be from yahoo but not on the list, that helps to cut back on a LOT of spam.  The real problem is that the concept of email reflectors like this was born in the early days of the Internet before web servers when spam wasn't a problem.  It has passed its prime, much like newsgroups.
>
> The modern solution is web based forums.  Like them or not, at least they don't require email as an enabling technology and thus are not a vector for spam.
>
> Al
> AB2ZY
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [RTTY] From: RTTY
>
> It is a shame that the choice is to neuter the list software because
> of the members who use providers that will not accept e-mail from the
> list (or for whom their default e-mail behavior is to reject list
> e-mail).
>
> My suggestion is that those who are being unsubscribed due to bounces
> get an account with one of the free e-mail providers not rejecting
> list e-mail.
>
> It seems strange that those providers causing the most problems have
> interests in large advertising supported web based discussion groups
>
> 73,
>
>      ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 4/18/2014 12:51 PM, RTTY wrote:
>> ORIGINAL MESSAGE:          (may be snipped)
>>
>> Yes, I'm well aware of the problem and I'm trying to find a solution.
>> The software that the reflector uses, Mailman, only offers two choices:
>> The From: field can be either the sender or the RTTY group. Making it
>> the RTTY group causes the problem you mentioned above, but making it the
>> sender causes the bounce problem. It's a dilemma.
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