[RTTY] Change in pileup procedure?

[Phil Sussman]

Bill,

It's always good to hear (read) your thoughts. Believe it or not, this
topic came up before -- many years ago.

It was (after a lot of back and forth) decided that it created more
problems than it solved:

1. The response (UP 2-5) would be misconstrued by many. They would start
calling from 2 to 5 up and the time meaning would be lost.
2. Regardless of the siuation, other stations would continue to call, in
spite of an ongoing QSO in the 'UP' range. An attempt at a clear ongoing
QSO would be continually disrupted by those who are still not monitoring.
3. When the DX station moves "UP" his originial calling frequency will be
overrun, either by someone else calling CQ or others who are impatient
and calling the DX on his original calling QRG.

As they say -- keep on dreaming.

The reality is that as long as there is a wanted DX station, the band will
be overrun.

73 de Phil - N8PS


Quoting Bill Turner <dezrat1242 at wildblue.net>:

> Here's something I've been thinking about for quite a while. I'd  
> like to hear what you think.
>
> Presently, the practice in pileups is for the DX station to call and  
> answer on his same frequency, and that leads to problems with  
> jammers and stations who forget to go split.
>
> What if we had a procedure where the DX calls CQ UP but answers on  
> YOUR frequency? He would specify an amount of time that he would do  
> this and then call CQ again on his frequency.
>
> For example, adding a number after CQ would indicate the number of  
> minutes he is listening and answering. The DX would call CQ5 UP 2-5.  
> That would mean for five minutes he is listening up 2-5 and will  
> answer you on your frequency. After five minutes he will go back to  
> his frequency and call CQ again. He could go back earlier if he runs  
> out of callers or if he just wants to.
>
> This has three advantages:  1. Immune to jammers on his CQ  
> frequency. 2. Immune to jammers on your frequency because he is  
> constantly changing frequency with each station he calls. 3. Immune  
> to stations who forget to go split, and thus no more UP UP UP from  
> the cops.
>
> When someone makes a spot on a DX cluster they could add QYF 5 to  
> the spot, indicating Your Frequency for TX and RX for five minute  
> periods.
>
> What do you think? Workable or not? Or is the current mess OK?
>
> 73, Bill W6WRT
>
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