[RTTY] Ice on antennas - get on-air anyway!

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Fri Feb 7 11:44:20 EST 2014


While ice de-tunes antennas, the SWR is usually far less  than 3 to 1.  
Therefore, the antenna efficiency is still quite good.  I haven't let ice keep 
me off-the-air  during one of my favorite contests.  Just reduce  power and 
if possible use an antenna tuner.  Even a  poor built-in antenna tuner found 
in many of todays xceivers can  handle the small amount of detuning that 
ice creates.  "Been there, done that" numerous times, made lots Qso's  and it 
was always a great deal more fun then  missing the contest.  WPX-RTTY is a 
fantastic contest, I encourage you NOT  to miss it!    
 
73,
Dick- K9OM 
(NO4S this weekend)
 
 
 
 
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Today's Topics:

1. Moderator  (jim at dvdr.kscoxmail.com)
2. DXing (Jay WS7I)
3. Re: Change in pileup procedure? (Bill Turner)
4. Re: Change  in pileup procedure? (Phil Sussman)
5. IC-7100 (Claude Du  Berger)
6. Re: CQ WPX RTTY Practices (James C. Hall,  MD)
7. Re: IC-7100 (Michael Adams)
8. Re: CQ  WPX RTTY Practices (Bill Turner)
9. Re: CQ WPX RTTY Practices  (Shelby Summerville)
10. Re: CQ WPX RTTY Practices (Jerry  Flanders)


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Message:  1
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 08:26:15 -0600
From: "jim at dvdr.kscoxmail.com"  <jim at dvdr.kscoxmail.com>
To: RTTY at contesting.com
Subject: [RTTY]  Moderator
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Bill
You are doing FB 59+ here with your  Moderator duties.
Keep the good work
Jim AC0E


Sent from my  Verizon Wireless 4G LTE  smartphone

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Message: 2
Date:  Thu, 06 Feb 2014 09:27:54 -0800
From: Jay WS7I  <ws7ik7tj at gmail.com>
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: [RTTY]  DXing
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Absolutely  unbelievable.

RTTY has now regressed into a operation of lids.  I  am on 24 mHz and set 
up about nearly a kHz above the D2 who was working  simplex. Asked if the 
frequency was in use, and it wasn't.  Called  CQ, and then a kilocycle 
Kop came by and asked me to QSY.  Seems I am  S9 +40 in the midwest.  And 
since this idiot doesn't (a) identify  until I started talking to him, 
and (b) doesn't own filters.  He  evidently doesn't have real antennas 
either as old Spokane is hardly in  the direction of Angola!

Life is unlucky if you can't operate RTTY  within 750 cycles of another 
station.  Order some filters.  By  the way, using 100 watts into a  
vertical.




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Message:  3
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 09:34:46 -0800
From: Bill Turner  <dezrat1242 at wildblue.net>
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re:  [RTTY] Change in pileup procedure?
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On 2/6/2014 6:06 AM, Charles Morrison  wrote:
> As it should be Bill.  If you want a terrible example how  to moderate a
> group, read the Icom Pro3 reflector.  I think the  moderator sends out his
> form cease and desist emails about every week  or so.
>
> Of course this means that either Icom people are always  off 
topic/attacking
> each other, or the mod has a seriously happy  trigger finger, and doesn't
> allow many freedoms in "his"  group.
>
> I leaned towards the latter and quit reading the  group.
>
> Keep it like it is.
>
> Charlie
>  N5WE

REPLY:

The RTTY group is exceptionally well-behaved,  Charlie. We have over 1100 
members and in my seven years as moderator, I  have had to put only one 
person on moderated status for personal attacks,  and he has since 
cleaned up his act and is now un-moderated. There are  still a few people 
on moderated status because some kind of virus took  over their computer 
and started sending out spam.

Good bunch of  guys and gals.  Thank you all for making my job easier!

If anyone  needs help with their subscription in any way, feel free to 
email me  direct. You might want to add my address to your list in case 
of future  needs.

73, Bill W6WRT
RTTY List Administrator at  contesting.com
dezrat1242 at wildblue.net




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Message:  4
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 12:51:56 -0500
From: Phil Sussman  <psussman at pactor.com>
To: Bill Turner  <dezrat1242 at wildblue.net>
Cc: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re:  [RTTY] Change in pileup procedure?
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I found that Bill has been a respectful moderator. I  don't
say that lightly. Bill tolerates opinions on the list that
are at  times vastly different from his own. When dealing
with many of us (who at  times are very opinionated) he has
been very polite and often quite  helpful.

Now, that being said, it shouldn't go to his head.

73  de Phil - N8PS

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Quoting Bill Turner  <dezrat1242 at wildblue.net>:

> ORIGINAL MESSAGE:     (may be snipped)
>
> On 2/6/2014 6:06 AM,  Charles Morrison wrote:
>> As it should be Bill.  If you want a  terrible example how to moderate a
>> group, read the Icom Pro3  reflector.  I think the moderator sends out 
his
>> form cease  and desist emails about every week or so.
>>
>> Of course  this means that either Icom people are always off 
topic/attacking
>>  each other, or the mod has a seriously happy trigger finger, and  
doesn't
>> allow many freedoms in "his"  group.
>>
>> I leaned towards the latter and quit reading  the group.
>>
>> Keep it like it is.
>>
>>  Charlie
>> N5WE
>
> REPLY:
>
> The RTTY group  is exceptionally well-behaved, Charlie. We have over  
> 1100  members and in my seven years as moderator, I have had to put  
>  only one person on moderated status for personal attacks, and he has   
> since cleaned up his act and is now un-moderated. There are still  a  
> few people on moderated status because some kind of virus  took over  
> their computer and started sending out  spam.
>
> Good bunch of guys and gals.  Thank you all for  making my job easier!
>
> If anyone needs help with their  subscription in any way, feel free  
> to email me direct. You  might want to add my address to your list in  
> case of future  needs.
>
> 73, Bill W6WRT
> RTTY List Administrator at  contesting.com
> dezrat1242 at wildblue.net
>
>
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Message:  5
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 15:00:07 -0500
From: Claude Du Berger  <duberger.miousse81 at globetrotter.net>
To:  rtty at contesting.com
Subject: [RTTY] IC-7100
Message-ID:  <284A8484913247F490554EC31A8F86CC at UtilisateurPC>
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Anyone tested the  IC-7100  in  RTTY during a contest?

73, Claude  VE2FK


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Message: 6
Date:  Thu, 6 Feb 2014 15:40:42 -0600
From: "James C. Hall, MD"  <heartdoc at nwtcc.com>
To: <ed at w0yk.com>,     <rtty at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] CQ WPX RTTY  Practices
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Unfortunately, I will not be able to play  this year in the WPX. We have 
3/8"
ice on everything and all the antennas  have a pronounced droop. First year
in awhile that I've missed this one -  one of my favorites. So to everybody
that's playing this weekend, have fun  !!

73, Jamie
WB4YDL

-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY  [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ed Muns
Sent: Thursday,  February 06, 2014 1:13 AM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: [RTTY] CQ WPX  RTTY Practices

Thursday afternoon and evening, NA  time:

2200-2230Z, Thursday, 6 February (convenient for Europe)  0300-0330Z, 
Friday,
7 February

These practices are a good way to  check out your station to be sure all the
hardware, software and operating  techniques are working well before the
starting bell at 0000Z on Saturday,  8 February.

Use the bands that are open for you and use the actual  messages you will 
use
in the contest.  That is, send serial numbers  and be prepared for innocent
bystanders to inform you that the contest  hasn't yet begun.

Conditions for the weekend are forecast to be  excellent, so get on and have
some fun!  

Rules in 13  languages: http://www.cqwpxrtty.com/rules.htm

Records and prior Scores  Database (searchable):
http://www.cqwpxrtty.com/records.htm

Log  information: http://www.cqwpxrtty.com/logs.htm

Special notes for MixW  users: http://www.cqwpxrtty.com/mixw.htm

Also note that this is the  first of the three CQ WPX contests for 2014.  
The
single op with the  highest cumulative score from all three contests will 
win
the coveted  Ironman award.

73,
Ed W0YK
CQ RTTY Contest  Director

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Message:  7
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 22:46:30 +0000
From: Michael Adams  <mda at n1en.org>
To: "rtty at contesting.com"  <rtty at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY]  IC-7100
Message-ID:
<698690539c434f369a1716f580732482 at BLUPR02MB097.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

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I recently  swapped in an IC7100 as my number two radio, replacing an 
IC7000 that will be  going mobile.

I also just took the station out for a very quick  test-drive in the 2200Z 
practice session, the first time I've worked RTTY on  the 7100.

The 7100 is OK.  The receiver and filtering isn't as  good as my primary 
rig, a K3, but it is somewhat better than the  7000's.   Being able to tap on 
the touch screen to cycle among  wide/medium/narrow filters is kind of 
nifty, as is the on-screen decoding on  the larger screen...but those are bells 
and whistles if the contest logging  software is set up suitably.  I'm kind 
of disappointed that they didn't  make the TPF filter a toggleable option 
from the touchscreen, however-- still  need to dig through a menu, or make use 
of a macro.

When my 7000 was my  one-and-only HF rig, I tended to run it at reduced 
power if running a  frequency in a RTTY test, due to the heating issues.   My 
quick test  wasn't long enough to determine if the 7100 will require similar  
treatment.

-- 
Michael / N1EN (WW1MM in  WPX)


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Message: 8
Date: Thu,  06 Feb 2014 17:13:24 -0800
From: Bill Turner  <dezrat1242 at wildblue.net>
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re:  [RTTY] CQ WPX RTTY Practices
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On 2/6/2014 1:40 PM, James C. Hall, MD  wrote:
> Unfortunately, I will not be able to play this year in the WPX.  We have 
3/8"
> ice on everything and all the antennas have a pronounced  droop. First 
year
> in awhile that I've missed this one - one of my  favorites. So to 
everybody
> that's playing this weekend, have fun  !!
>
> 73, Jamie
> WB4YDL

REPLY:

Sorry to hear  that Jamie. I always look forward to putting YDL in the log.

Better  luck next time.

73, Bill  W6WRT



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Message: 9
Date:  Fri, 7 Feb 2014 03:11:17 -0500
From: "Shelby Summerville"  <k4ww at twc.com>
To: <rtty at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY]  CQ WPX RTTY Practices
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"Unfortunately, I will not be able to play this  year in the WPX. We have 
3/8"
ice on everything and all the antennas  have a pronounced droop.
73, Jamie
WB4YDL"

Likewise, but with  "only" 1/4 inch of ice. Worst part about it, the 
temperature isn't  supposed to get above freezing until Monday, and I don't 
do "ice"  fishing!
Y'all have fun

C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW  




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Message: 10
Date:  Fri, 07 Feb 2014 10:46:53 -0500
From: Jerry Flanders  <jeflanders at comcast.net>
To: <rtty at contesting.com>
Subject:  Re: [RTTY] CQ WPX RTTY Practices
Message-ID:  <20140207154631.2FFFAAC9B04 at mx.contesting.com>
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I don't see how an ice  coating on the antenna would have any effect 
on signals, either rx or tx.  Please explain.

Jerry W4UK in sunny SC

At 03:11 AM 2/7/2014,  Shelby Summerville wrote:
>"Unfortunately, I will not be able to play  this year in the WPX. We have 
3/8"
>ice on everything and all the  antennas have a pronounced droop.
>73,  Jamie
>WB4YDL"
>
>Likewise, but with "only" 1/4 inch of ice.  Worst part about it, the 
>temperature isn't supposed to get above  freezing until Monday, and I 
>don't do "ice" fishing!
>Y'all have  fun
>
>C'Ya, Shelby -  K4WW
>
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