[RTTY] SPAM-LOW: Re: Amateur Radio Teletype Society Bulletins online & great new Jim Ha...

[Dick Flanagan]

The message says that the stuff is no longer available to YOU, not to them.

When you delete an item do you think FB goes through their archives and 
removes all copies of it?  Do you think they go through all of their 
promotional directories looking for any copies?  That they notify their 
partners and affiliates, "Whoops, sorry, you can't use that any more?"

You have given them a non-exclusive license with no time limit on it.

Of course Google is just as bad.  They can use everything you send or 
receive over gmail.  Why do you think it is free?

Oh, well.  Dead horse time.  You're not going to change my mind and I 
doubt I will be changing yours.

--
Dick Flanagan K7VC
dick at k7vc.com

On 2014-02-24 9:19 AM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
> Those of us who do use Facebook will recognize when you delete a 
> message, photo, or video... any links to that content pursued by 
> others are greeted with a  (paraphrased) "Sorry, that content is no 
> longer available" message. You also see this on YouTube when content 
> has been removed.
>
> You DO realize all your content on this (or any) reflector is being 
> monitored as well, right?
>
> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> On 2/24/2014 9:58 AM, Kai wrote:
>> Folks,
>> "granting Facebook a non-exclusive use of your content." is the 
>> definition of " "I discovered every bit of info they glean is theirs 
>> -- never to be destroyed..."
>> As a "test", see if you can "ungrant" your permission.
>>
>> -73
>> Kai, KE4PT
>>
>> On 2/23/2014 9:53 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
>>> I'm sorry but the following statement is blatantly wrong "I 
>>> discovered every bit of info they glean is theirs -- never to be 
>>> destroyed..."
>>>
>>> Please read the Facebook Terns of Use - Statement of Rights and 
>>> Responsibilities. Specifically section 2 regarding your Intellectual 
>>> Property rights.
>>>
>>> *"2. Sharing Your Content and Information*
>>>
>>> You own all of the content and information you post on Facebook, and 
>>> you can control how it is shared through your privacy 
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=privacy> and application 
>>> settings <https://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=applications>."
>>>
>>> Within Section 2 are five statements that provide additional 
>>> information, including granting Facebook a non-exclusive use of your 
>>> content. This temporary license ends when you delete your content. 
>>> They "own" nothing. They have permission from you to "use". 
>>> Subsection 2 also describes the purging details and that backup 
>>> copies within their system will eventually purge and are not 
>>> available to others.
>>>
>>> Don't make stuff up and try to pass it off as "authentic"!
>>>
>>> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>
>>> On 2/23/2014 8:19 PM, Phil Sussman wrote:
>>>> Regrettably I agree with John. I say regrettably because I
>>>> have unfortunately learned the 'price' of dealing with
>>>> Facebook. They reap and harvest EVERYTHING and I mean
>>>> EVERYTHING. Talk about 'big-brother', Facebook puts that
>>>> analogy to shame. I discovered every bit of info they glean
>>>> is theirs -- never to be destroyed -- just surrendered to the
>>>> highest bidder -- or rather EVERY bidder.
>>>>
>>>> Caution: Woe to any college student on Facebook seeking a job.
>>>> Boxers or briefs -- they know -- and much much more.
>>>>
>>>> 73 de Phil - N8PS
>>>>
>>>> PS. I was cloned there by a douple-ganger with the same name
>>>> or using mine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quoting John Becker <w0jab at big-river.net>:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/23/2014 3:57 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
>>>>>> Facebook, on the other hand, is equivalent to a 72" HDTV with 
>>>>>> color, surround sound, video, and instant connections to your 
>>>>>> friends and family. YOU control who gets to "see your stuff", not 
>>>>>> some invisible reflector moderator.
>>>>> If you own a business the insurance company may ask if you use 
>>>>> facebook. Or at
>>>>> least my wife's did and said they would not cover. Had to do with 
>>>>> facebook's
>>>>> habit or trying to read as much as they can get from your system 
>>>>> (computer)
>>>>> Was more then enough for me not to use it. Besides being on a 
>>>>> satellite internet
>>>>> system I have got to watch the daily bandwidth usage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you just guess the outcome if all the her customer credit card 
>>>>> information got out.
>>>>> That would be lawsuit never ending. You use it if you like, not me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John, W0JAB
>>>>> Louisiana, Missouri
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>
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