[RTTY] FREQUENCY IN USE BY ... (JT65/JT9)

[John GW4SKA]

Hi Stan,

> BTW, I operate multiple modes, including, (gasp) SSB (but not Pactor). I 
> also wonder when the contests will start including the other digital modes 
> or will it always be just SSB, CW and RTTY?

Maybe you missed the part of the RU rules which states: digital modes 
(Baudot RTTY, ASCII, PSK31 and packet - attended operation only)

Perhaps next year your special event station could work a few folks in the 
contest .. demonstrate the different digital modes?

Happy New Year,

John GW4SKA / GW0A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stanley Zawrotny" <k4sbz.stan at gmail.com>
To: "pcooper" <pcooper at guernsey.net>
Cc: <rtty at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FREQUENCY IN USE BY ... (JT65/JT9)


> Greetings to all,
>
> This forum has a very focused audience with a limited mindset, whereas the 
> digital aspect of this hobby is very broad. (How many of you subscribe to 
> other forums?) RTTY traditionally operates on 20 between 14.080 & 14.100, 
> a range of .200. But during the contests, everyone seems to think that 
> they can spread out and take over the entire digital band without regard 
> to the other digital modes. Thankfully, everyone continues to respect the 
> PSK31 folks, but the JT65 people, with their one frequency, are now the 
> enemy? Whatever happened to the DX Code of Conduct? Or is getting that 
> last few points more important than "Respecting my fellow hams and 
> conducting myself so as to earn their respect?" Let's give the other guy a 
> break and QSY like a gentleman.
>
> BTW, I operate multiple modes, including, (gasp) SSB (but not Pactor). I 
> also wonder when the contests will start including the other digital modes 
> or will it always be just SSB, CW and RTTY?
>
> And, no, you won't find me in your log this weekend because I gave up my 
> entire weekend to running a Special Event Station. Out of courtesy, We did 
> not operate RTTY so as to not cause QRM during the contest.
>
> HNY to all.
>
> Stan, K4SBZ
>
> "Real radio bounces off the sky."
>
>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:49 PM, " pcooper" <pcooper at guernsey.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, and a very HNY to you all!
>>
>> JT65, and JT9, are modes that you can indeed use when RTTY would be 
>> inaudible. I prefer JT65 for no apparent reason, but JT9 is certainly 
>> more efficient, both in terms of bandwidth, and power levels used.
>> I've been using both (but mostly JT65A) for some while now, and it is 
>> amazing what you can work when the bands are flat.
>>
>> When I first started, I thought it would be good to join the JT-user 
>> group on Yahoo. It seemed pertinent, and would be useful in finding out 
>> what is good practice.
>>
>> Well, that was not my experience of that particular group! They were 
>> extremely anti-RTTY, and I when I mentioned that I used both modes, I 
>> ended up with more than a few direct emails that were enough to make me 
>> decide to un-join the group, and quickly!
>> There are several users that specifically use RTTY during a contest to 
>> tell folk to clear off the JT65 frequencies. They generally won't provide 
>> a callsign, and I saw a couple of users letting others know the best ways 
>> to interfere with RTTY signals.
>> These are calls I now avoid like the plague when I am using the mode.
>>
>> OK, I know it is good practice not to interfere with others users of the 
>> band, and it is fair to say that you may often not be able to hear them, 
>> which doesn't mean they aren't there, but these few were very anti-RTTY, 
>> and made very few comments about CW invading "their space" during the 
>> likes of CQWW.
>>
>> Simply, it is NOT "their space", as digital modes are allocated a space 
>> where you can use whichever mode you choose.
>> That does not mean I will intentionally get in their way, but they are a 
>> very vociferous lot.
>>
>> If you have not yet tried either of these modes, then I can recommend 
>> them, as it is an impressive tool.
>> I've managed VK/ZL and W6/7/VE7 with just 20 watts of JT65 on 10m when 
>> RTTY would simply not work.
>> The apps by VK3AMA are extremely useful with either, and can me made to 
>> log into your logging software automatically.
>> At 5 minutes per QSO, it is not a rate mode, but still useful!
>>
>> There, that's my rant, off my chest, and done with.
>>
>> 73 de Phil GU0SUP
>>
>>
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