[RTTY] The RTTY efficiency myth and SUPERFILL

[Jeff AC0C]

I'm confused; is someone advocating dropping the TU?  Most guys use it.

And from a S&P rate standpoint, it's very helpful for the run station to 
lead with that TU - as it let's the S&P caller know he's got the exchange 
and it frees the S&P guy to zoom to the next Q.

73/jeff/ac0c
www.ac0c.com
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-----Original Message----- 
From: john
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 5:24 PM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] The RTTY efficiency myth and SUPERFILL

with great reluctance,,, I was going to eliminate  the "TU" in the
exchange---I have always felt, and still feel  that the rtty bunch is
the nicest group of competitors that I have ever encountered, and,,,
always felt pleasure in expressing my  thanks of a  contest qso by a "TU"--
  I understand the need for speed and a "TU" multiplier by hundreds of
times  would eat up time for  the big gun contester--   I get that,,,but
still we, the rtty folks are a unique group--I feel notches above the
average,,, I hate to see that being lost--as I write this,,, I want to
go back to my roots--a "TU" is needed to remind the big guns,and
everyone, if it were not for us little shots,,big gamers  would have
very few folk  to work,..
get over it--the "TU"    is staying  in to my macros--
a matter of perspective.  If we can not take time to appreciate and
acknowledge  the efforts of others, is a shame, for all of us,,,
,It is, or at least , should be a hobby,,,please lets keep it that
way....see you this weekend  with a "TU"

73 and "good luck in the contest"
john





On 7/16/2014 16:42, Tim Shoppa wrote:
> In a real RTTY contest, the "PLEASE COPY" is surprisingly rare. (It was
> pretty common on field day, which thank God is not an actual contest!)
>
> More common in real RTTY contests, are long preambles of punctuation
> especially from EU contesters, and/or canned macros that greet me as
> "Timothy" from a licensing database every time I ask for a fill. I don't
> mind the guys who call me by name in exchange because they actually know
> me, that's fine.
>
> On the subject of asking for a fill... I saw on several occasions "PLEASE
> MORE NR" in the DL RTTY contest a few weekends ago. That was very pleasing
> to see! Asking for a fill in marginal conditions, and getting a long 
> canned
> macro that prints fine except for the actual variable exchange info which
> was only sent once, is very frustrating!
>
> I would encourage anyone setting up macros for CW or RTTY contesting, to
> include a button for "superfill", where the variable exchange info is
> repeated many times over. This is what I set up for that DL contest, I
> encourage this become part of any standard contest macro package:
>
> F6 Superfill, {TX}{ENTER}{EXCH} {EXCH} {EXCH} {EXCH} {EXCH} {EXCH} {EXCH}
> {EXCH}{RX}
>
> In the past Ed W0YK and others have tried to steer folks to "modular
> macros". In my modular macro setup, I can use the macro keys to make any
> initial exchange have multiple repeats of actual variable exchange
> depending on conditions/QRM. I will generally send the variable exchange
> info twice in the initial exchange except under the most optimal
> conditions, because that is more efficient than having to give fills.
>
> Tim.
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