[RTTY] QRM to W1AW/0 (MO) RTTY

Wed Jun 4 20:43:55 EDT 2014

Agreed.

After the misinformation being portrayed as the truth from the ARRL in 
regard to RM-11708,  I am not sure if I would depend on the information 
being transmitted in the event of a national issue.

Mike W0MU

On 6/4/2014 2:05 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> I have to wonder about the wisdom of on the air bulletin and code
> practice in this day and age.  W1AW probably has $100,000 or more
> tied up in capital equipment (transceivers, computers, amplifiers,
> antennas, etc.) plus maintenance costs, the cost of professional
> operator(s), operating costs, etc. that probably run that much or
> more on an annual basis.
>
> All the on the air bulletins and code practice could be replaced by
> a few lines of code in some smartphone/tablet apps ... one to get
> bulletins and another one for streaming code practice on demand. It
> seems the financial and personnel resources could be much better
> allocated to other priorities - like protecting traditional narrow
> band amateur modes and supporting HF activities DX/contesting/the
> traditional awards programs.  And at the same time, the information,
> education and outreach mandates of the League would be in areas where
> younger, tech savvy people just might stumble on it!
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2014-06-04 11:00 AM, joeduerbusch wrote:
>> Hi Mike, I do agree with Ed K0KL on this. I have been copying the W1AW
>> bulletins for 40 years.  I still do, mostly on RTTY but sometimes on CW.
>> I have used the scheduled bulletins on RTTY to check out various RTTY
>> Equipment.  I even used W1AW CW to calibrate my Heathkit HW-16 when I 
>> was a
>> Novice.
>> Just because it broke a QSO with you, it doesn't mean it has no value.
>> As far as setting up on 14313, you can do that.  K1MAN did the same 
>> thing
>> for years on 14275.  Just be ready to be at your station 24/7.
>>
>> So when W1AW comes on, either QSY or just copy it.
>>
>> Joe K0BX
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 5:01 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone even copy these bulletins anymore.  There is no way to find
>>> out.  In this day and age I doubt many do.
>>>
>>> Published months in advance do not allow one to break the rules. So 
>>> if I
>>> publish my operating schedule on 14.313 months in advance and fire 
>>> up, this
>>> is ok?  I think not.
>>>
>>> Mike W0MU
>>>
>>> On 6/3/2014 9:47 AM, Edwin Karl wrote:
>>>
>>>> How about don't blame the victim ... !
>>>>
>>>> I didn't know even the exalted bulletins were special
>>>> and above the rules we all live with (?)
>>>>
>>>> Ed K0KL
>>>>
>>>> On 6/3/2014 10:20 AM, Dick Kriss wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gary AL9A.
>>>>>
>>>>> The W1AW Bulletin station has been doing that for years. The error 
>>>>> was
>>>>> on the part of the W1AW/0 (MO) operator for setting up and calling 
>>>>> CQ on
>>>>> the published W1AW broadcast frequency.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be interesting to see a poll taken of the amateur 
>>>>> community on
>>>>> the need for ARRL W1AW broadcast station. Broadcasting was good 
>>>>> when it was
>>>>> created but may no longer be useful or used.  Maintaining a club 
>>>>> station
>>>>> for member use has value; however, I would rather see the 
>>>>> operational cost
>>>>> of broadcasting channeled into more useful projects, like LoTW.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dick AA5VU
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Gary AL9A <al9a at mtaonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   In no way is this "amusing".  It is a portent of of what awaits 
>>>>> us all
>>>>>> should RM-11708 be enacted as is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dick, I think you should send a copy of your email to ARRL and 
>>>>>> ask why
>>>>>> they interfered with one of their own W1AW portable stations?  
>>>>>> Also ask
>>>>>> what are they going to do to insure this doesn't happen again to any
>>>>>> unfortunate soul who happens to be operating on "their" frequency 
>>>>>> when its
>>>>>> time to transmit a ARRL bulletin?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Gary AL9A
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: David Tanks via RTTY
>>>>>> Sent: June 02, 2014 2:35 PM
>>>>>> To: Dick Kriss ; RTTY Reflector
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] QRM to W1AW/0 (MO) RTTY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is amusing. The ARRL is touting RM 11708 as being helpful, 
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> at the same time QRMing an on-going operation on a frequency without
>>>>>> checking to see if it is busy! The ARRL does not have a right to a
>>>>>> frequency if it is occupied already. They are supposed to move to 
>>>>>> prevent
>>>>>> QRM, correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, David AD4TJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Dick Kriss <aa5vu at att.net>
>>>>>> To: RTTY Reflector <rtty at contesting.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 6:29 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [RTTY] QRM to W1AW/0 (MO) RTTY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was trying to work W1AW/0 (MO) on RTTY at 18.100 and W1AW home
>>>>>> bulletin station came on like a PACTOR robot and wiped out any 
>>>>>> chance of
>>>>>> working the W1AW/O Centennial station.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Future W1AW/P RTTY operations should avoid W1AW broadcast 
>>>>>> frequencies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dick AA5VU
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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