[RTTY] Fwd: RE: ARRL W1AW Bulletin Operations

[Paul Stoetzer]

If you want to test it out, I suggest you operate on a W1AW bulletin
frequency and keep a recorder going. When W1AW fires up on top of you,
file a complaint with the FCC and send them your recording.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 11:11 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> So I can publish a schedule and effectively claim the exclusive right to
> 14.195?  Since it is published I can fire up without checking to see of the
> frequency is in use.  I do not believe the FCC would be happy that the ARRL
> is interfering with other amateur transmissions as that goes against almost
> everything in the rules.
>
> If you are the FCC would you allow the ARRL or any other organization to
> wait until the QSO was over and NOT cause malicious interference to other
> amateur or allow them to publish alternative frequencies?  Waiting 5 minutes
> would not harm anyone.  These transmissions are not life and death.  These
> are news and advertising pieces for the ARRL.
>
>
> Mike W0MU
>
>
> On 6/5/2014 8:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>
>> The wording of that section of the regulations might not explicitly
>> override the other regulations against causing interference to other
>> amateur stations but implicitly it must. The control operator must
>> follow the published schedule, including time and frequencies. To QSY
>> would be to violate the schedule. To delay the transmission would be
>> to violate the schedule. To not make the transmission could reduce the
>> number of hours below the required 40 hours per week.
>>
>> The bottom line is that the schedule is published well in advance.
>> Everyone knows what frequencies to avoid and when (or should).
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:48 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is nothing in 97.113 a 3 iv that gives them the right to the
>>> frequency
>>> at all times.  I believe these actions by W1AW are in violation of the
>>> rules.
>>>
>>> 113 a 3 iv is about paying the control op and following a schedule. It
>>> does
>>> not give anyone the right to ignore the other rules.  Every operating
>>> guide
>>> printed by the ARRL talks about listening and making sure that the
>>> frequency
>>> is clear before transmitting.  If there was a control op on duty at the
>>> time
>>> of the interference then that person was in violation of the rules.  I
>>> was
>>> told that these broadcasts are automated.
>>>
>>> I am starting to see a pattern where the ARRL believes that only some of
>>> the
>>> rules apply to them.  The ARRL is just another club.
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject:        RE: ARRL W1AW Bulletin Operations
>>> Date:   Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:50:45 +0000
>>> From:   Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ <dsumner at arrl.org>
>>> To:     'W0MU Mike Fatchett' <w0mu at w0mu.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> The bulletin transmissions must conform to the published schedule in
>>> order
>>> to comply with 97.113(a)(3)(iv). 18 MHz is problematic because the band
>>> is
>>> narrow, but it provides excellent coverage.
>>>
>>> 2.8 kHz HF data signals are permitted now and have been in use for more
>>> than
>>> a decade. What RM-11708 would do is to limit the bandwidth to that rather
>>> than to continue the status quo, which allows much wider bandwidths.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Dave K1ZZ
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: W0MU Mike Fatchett [mailto:w0mu at w0mu.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 8:49 PM
>>> To: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ
>>> Subject: ARRL W1AW Bulletin Operations
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> Apparently in the last few days it was reported that W1AW came up on
>>> 18.100 and started the Bulletin.  Unfortunately, one of the W1AW/X
>>> stations was on that frequency.
>>>
>>> I have been going over the rules and I would like to understand why W1AW
>>> does not check for a busy frequency prior to firing up.  Where in the
>>> FCC rules is this allowed.  I am sure that I would be subject to a pink
>>> slip if I decided to fire up on top of W1AW or face much peer
>>> retribution wouldn't I?
>>>
>>> Sadly if RM-11708 passes we will all be subject to 2.8khz signals firing
>>> up on top of people using a frequency just like W1AW does. Maybe you can
>>> explain the difference to me.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike W0MU
>>>
>>>
>>>
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