[RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating

[Jeff AC0C]

Maybe they are doing that on purpose - maybe not.

I can easily believe it's an oversight on a macro setup - done that myself a 
few times over the years - and it's one of those things you may not actually 
noticed it until I was 10 minutes into a contest with your attention focused 
on a ton of other things as the contest kicks off.

My repeat key has a trio of the exchange - the 5NN is not repeated.  Someone 
getting in on the end of that QSO hearing only my repeat may think I'm not 
sending the 5NN.

In one instance I remember a guy asked me for the RST and it drew my 
attention to the omission.

My point is not to make excuses for another guy.  But I think among 
especially the serious competitors, something like this is a byproduct of 
oversight rather than some way to cheating on the exchange and by doing so 
risking a DQ as well as the black mark to a guy's reputation that would come 
along it.  Especially when you consider there are probably many guys with 
full SDR recordings of the entire contest making it now possible to double 
check this sort of issue.

So my thinking is that Rich has it right - focus on what we are sending - 
and let the other guy worry about his end of the contest.  And trust that 
the various contest committees are taking care of whatever needed policing 
action would be required to preserve the contest's integrity.

73/jeff/ac0c
www.ac0c.com
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Rich
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:47 PM
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating

Obviously not sending the RST is a violation and I am not sure how the
contest supervisors handle those situations.  I do not place my call at
the end of the exchange,  I do send my exchange (serial #) twice.
During S&P I only send my call.  The other station knows his/her call.
My macros have evolved over time with input from W0YK and AA5AU.   I am
just glad that the other station responds to my CQ.  The format of their
message is something I cannot control. Everything you mention is stuff
we have all seen and is just part of the "game".

Have Fun that is what it is all about.  There is very little you can do
about what the other station is sending or not sending.

Rich
K3RWN

On 2/17/2016 15:28 PM, David Tanks via RTTY wrote:
> Hello all. I have a couple of pet peeves to voice:
> 1. Some operators do not send the RST report that is required of some, not 
> all, contests. I work them anyway, even though they are clearly breaking 
> the rules to save milliseconds off of each contact
>
>
> The 2016 CQ World-Wide WPX RTTY Contest
> February 13-14, 2016
> " IV. CONTEST EXCHANGE: RST report plus a progressive contact serial 
> number starting with 001 for the first contact. Note: Multi-Two and 
> Multi-Unlimited entrants use separate serial number sequences on each 
> band. ".
> 2. Sometimes, there is an extended time period from when I send my call to 
> a running station to the time that he sends my call with the report; 
> before he starts sending the report, I have figured he hasn't heard me and 
> send my call again. When the software finishes, I hear the running station 
> sending a report; however, they have not set up their exchange to send the 
> caller's call at the end of it, so all I see on my screen is " 599  123 
> 123 " . Now, is he replying to me, or has someone snuck in there with me? 
> Who knows? All I can do is stand by until the running station again sends 
> the exchange, with the calling station's call displayed at the beginning. 
> It seems a waste of time to not include the calling stations's call at the 
> end of the exchange.
> 3. With excellent band conditions and signal strengths, an exchange of " 
> AD4TJ 599 123 " may be sufficient. However, how many timjes does that 
> happen? If just a little something interferes, then the serial number only 
> being sent once is not enough. And, at that, sometimes they don't even 
> send my call, just 599 123. Are they answering me, or someone else?
>
> I would appreciate hearing from the experienced RTTY contestors on what 
> they think is proper, concerning these items.
> 73, David AD4TJ
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