[RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating

[Jerry Flanders]

He may be working you only for an award using LOTW and if you don't 
log him, he loses it.

I would log him. Although ARRL's recommended QSL card includes the 
RST, I would bet that a QSO is valid even without one during the QSO 
real time. If he wanted credit for you for  an award like WAS, he 
could send your RST with the QSL .

Since I run high power, I know he would have sent 599 anyway, so I 
log him that way ;-)

I always have the option of not claiming credit for him when I send 
the log to the contest, but leaving it in for LOTW.

Contest committees and awards committees should drop the RST. It 
meant a lot in the 1920's - not so much now.

Jerry W4UK

At 06:58 AM 2/19/2016, John Barber wrote:
>Contest supervisors generally don't handle these situations because the log
>sent in will have the RST 'sent' and received. The way to stop it happening
>is to ask for the RST to be sent, not just assume 599.
>If you don't receive the RST, you don't log the contact. It's not valid ...
>and if you send in your log with a report that you didn't actually copy, you
>are also breaking the rules.
>
>Or get the ridiculous automatic 599 removed from the exchange .. see BARTG
>Sprint and a few others!
>
>John GW4SKA
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rich
>Sent: 17 February 2016 21:47
>To: rtty at contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating
>
>Obviously not sending the RST is a violation and I am not sure how the
>contest supervisors handle those situations.  I do not place my call at the
>end of the exchange,  I do send my exchange (serial #) twice.
>During S&P I only send my call.  The other station knows his/her call.
>My macros have evolved over time with input from W0YK and AA5AU.   I am
>just glad that the other station responds to my CQ.  The format of their
>message is something I cannot control. Everything you mention is stuff we
>have all seen and is just part of the "game".
>
>Have Fun that is what it is all about.  There is very little you can do
>about what the other station is sending or not sending.
>
>Rich
>K3RWN
>
>On 2/17/2016 15:28 PM, David Tanks via RTTY wrote:
> > Hello all. I have a couple of pet peeves to voice:
> > 1. Some operators do not send the RST report that is required of some,
> > not all, contests. I work them anyway, even though they are clearly
> > breaking the rules to save milliseconds off of each contact
> >
> >
> > The 2016 CQ World-Wide WPX RTTY Contest February 13-14, 2016 " IV.
> > CONTEST EXCHANGE: RST report plus a progressive contact serial number
>starting with 001 for the first contact. Note: Multi-Two and Multi-Unlimited
>entrants use separate serial number sequences on each band. ".
> > 2. Sometimes, there is an extended time period from when I send my call to
>a running station to the time that he sends my call with the report; before
>he starts sending the report, I have figured he hasn't heard me and send my
>call again. When the software finishes, I hear the running station sending a
>report; however, they have not set up their exchange to send the caller's
>call at the end of it, so all I see on my screen is " 599  123 123 " . Now,
>is he replying to me, or has someone snuck in there with me? Who knows? All
>I can do is stand by until the running station again sends the exchange,
>with the calling station's call displayed at the beginning. It seems a waste
>of time to not include the calling stations's call at the end of the
>exchange.
> > 3. With excellent band conditions and signal strengths, an exchange of "
>AD4TJ 599 123 " may be sufficient. However, how many timjes does that
>happen? If just a little something interferes, then the serial number only
>being sent once is not enough. And, at that, sometimes they don't even send
>my call, just 599 123. Are they answering me, or someone else?
> >
> > I would appreciate hearing from the experienced RTTY contestors on what
>they think is proper, concerning these items.
> > 73, David AD4TJ
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