[RTTY] GRITTY

[Rick Ruhl]

Rick,

It's been requested by a number of our users, which is the reasoning behind
it.

So you are telling me that users of HRD and N1MM can never interface because
of  HRD is a commercial product? Even though there would no increased cost
to the user?

I don't contest, Im a DXer, so Im not worried about it, but my userbase is.

So, that's what I tell my users?  You refused to work with them because they
paid for the software?

That's really not fair to them. 

Rick - W4PC



-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rick Ellison
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 12:26 AM
To: 'Rick Ruhl' <ricker at w4pcsoftware.com>; 'Alex, VE3NEA'
<alshovk at dxatlas.com>
Cc: N1MMLoggerplus at yahoogroups.com; 'RTTY Reflector' <rtty at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] GRITTY

DM780 is commercial software.
N1MM and N1MM+ and GRITTY and MMTTY and Fldigi and MMVARI are all free
software...
It's my personal philosophy that commercial software should provide for
their own users. If their users want a contest program then they should use
that as a marketing tool and create a contest logger as part of their
application. Free programs don't make money off commercial software. As long
as I am the programmer doing the digital parts of N1MM this how things will
be...

73 Rick N2AMG

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Ruhl [mailto:ricker at w4pcsoftware.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 9:38 PM
To: 'Rick Ellison' <rellison at twcny.rr.com>; 'Alex, VE3NEA'
<alshovk at dxatlas.com>
Cc: N1MMLoggerplus at yahoogroups.com; 'RTTY Reflector' <rtty at contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [RTTY] GRITTY

Then why isn't DM-780, as I have asked you guys many many times?

Rick - W4PC


-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rick Ellison
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 9:12 PM
To: 'Alex, VE3NEA' <alshovk at dxatlas.com>
Cc: N1MMLoggerplus at yahoogroups.com; 'RTTY Reflector' <rtty at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] GRITTY

Gritty is already click compatible with N1MM.. Its been like that since its
inception many months ago...

Alex at the time I implemented Gritty into N1MM we were not sure how it was
going to be accepted. I do need to go back and change some of my programming
around. When I get time I will do more of implementation. Actually the way
N1MM is written the exchange and such are not known to the digital window. I
purposely made the digital window kinda on the dumb side as I know At some
point another programmer will need to take over the digital coding that I do
and leave it as simple as possible.  I leave the clicking on exchange pieces
on the operator. Gotta keep them awake doing something..

73 Rick N2AMG

-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Alex, VE3NEA
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 7:22 PM
To: Hank Garretson <w6sx at arrl.net>; N1MMLoggerplus at yahoogroups.com; RTTY
Reflector <rtty at contesting.com>; ve3nea at dxatlas.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] GRITTY

Hi Hank,

I am glad that you liked Gritty. It should not be very difficult to
implement the complete set of mouse-click operations at the 
N1MM+ side, because When you click on something in Gritty's decoded 
N1MM+ text, it sends all information about your click (left/right
button, ctrl/alt/shift modifier keys, clicked text and its type
(call/exchange/other), to the logger.

I am also wondering if some smart processing of the exchange could be added
to N1MM+. It is known in advance what pieces of info are supposed to appear
in the exchange message, and N1MM+, instead of requiring the operator to
place the cursor in certain input fields and click on each piece of
exchange, could just parse the whole message and populate all fields at
once. E.g., if the user clicked on "599 123 123 2359 2359" in the BARTG
contest, the logger would place 123 in the serial number field, and
2359 in the utc field.

73 Alex VE3NEA




On 2016-03-20 18:57, Hank Garretson wrote:
> BARTG was my first contest using GRITTY. I was delighted. Very good
decode.
>
> What would be really neat is if some combination of VE3NEA and the 
> N1MM team could make GRITTY--not sure if this is right 
> terminology--MMTTY
compatible, like 2Tone, so GRITTY could have all the click features that
MMTTY and 2Tone have.
>
> Diddle Exuberantly,
>
> Hank, W6SX
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