[RTTY] N1MM+ Commercial Software

Neal Campbell nealk3nc at gmail.com
Mon Mar 21 13:20:36 EDT 2016


I sell software but completely agree with N1MM+. By establishing themselves
as non-commercial and publishing an "open" interface, they are bending over
backwards to help the community as a whole.

Besides, N1MM owns the right to do what they want with their software, if
you do not agree you have  three optioins:
1. Adopt an interface they do support
2. Write your own version of N1MM+
3. Be thankful some people care to do work for the community for free and
thank them often.

73


Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal LLC



On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> I guess N1MM+ shouldn't work on Windows, since that's commercial
> software...
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:25 AM, Rick Ellison <rellison at twcny.rr.com>
> wrote:
> > DM780 is commercial software.
> > N1MM and N1MM+ and GRITTY and MMTTY and Fldigi and MMVARI are all free
> > software...
> > It's my personal philosophy that commercial software should provide for
> > their own users. If their users want a contest program then they should
> use
> > that as a marketing tool and create a contest logger as part of their
> > application. Free programs don't make money off commercial software. As
> long
> > as I am the programmer doing the digital parts of N1MM this how things
> will
> > be...
> >
> > 73 Rick N2AMG
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Ruhl [mailto:ricker at w4pcsoftware.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 9:38 PM
> > To: 'Rick Ellison' <rellison at twcny.rr.com>; 'Alex, VE3NEA'
> > <alshovk at dxatlas.com>
> > Cc: N1MMLoggerplus at yahoogroups.com; 'RTTY Reflector' <
> rtty at contesting.com>
> > Subject: RE: [RTTY] GRITTY
> >
> > Then why isn't DM-780, as I have asked you guys many many times?
> >
> > Rick - W4PC
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Ellison
> > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 9:12 PM
> > To: 'Alex, VE3NEA' <alshovk at dxatlas.com>
> > Cc: N1MMLoggerplus at yahoogroups.com; 'RTTY Reflector' <
> rtty at contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [RTTY] GRITTY
> >
> > Gritty is already click compatible with N1MM.. Its been like that since
> its
> > inception many months ago...
> >
> > Alex at the time I implemented Gritty into N1MM we were not sure how it
> was
> > going to be accepted. I do need to go back and change some of my
> programming
> > around. When I get time I will do more of implementation. Actually the
> way
> > N1MM is written the exchange and such are not known to the digital
> window. I
> > purposely made the digital window kinda on the dumb side as I know At
> some
> > point another programmer will need to take over the digital coding that
> I do
> > and leave it as simple as possible.  I leave the clicking on exchange
> pieces
> > on the operator. Gotta keep them awake doing something..
> >
> > 73 Rick N2AMG
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Alex,
> VE3NEA
> > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 7:22 PM
> > To: Hank Garretson <w6sx at arrl.net>; N1MMLoggerplus at yahoogroups.com; RTTY
> > Reflector <rtty at contesting.com>; ve3nea at dxatlas.com
> > Subject: Re: [RTTY] GRITTY
> >
> > Hi Hank,
> >
> > I am glad that you liked Gritty. It should not be very difficult to
> > implement the complete set of mouse-click operations at the
> > N1MM+ side, because When you click on something in Gritty's decoded
> > N1MM+ text, it sends all information about your click (left/right
> > button, ctrl/alt/shift modifier keys, clicked text and its type
> > (call/exchange/other), to the logger.
> >
> > I am also wondering if some smart processing of the exchange could be
> added
> > to N1MM+. It is known in advance what pieces of info are supposed to
> appear
> > in the exchange message, and N1MM+, instead of requiring the operator to
> > place the cursor in certain input fields and click on each piece of
> > exchange, could just parse the whole message and populate all fields at
> > once. E.g., if the user clicked on "599 123 123 2359 2359" in the BARTG
> > contest, the logger would place 123 in the serial number field, and
> > 2359 in the utc field.
> >
> > 73 Alex VE3NEA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2016-03-20 18:57, Hank Garretson wrote:
> >> BARTG was my first contest using GRITTY. I was delighted. Very good
> > decode.
> >>
> >> What would be really neat is if some combination of VE3NEA and the
> >> N1MM team could make GRITTY--not sure if this is right
> >> terminology--MMTTY
> > compatible, like 2Tone, so GRITTY could have all the click features that
> > MMTTY and 2Tone have.
> >>
> >> Diddle Exuberantly,
> >>
> >> Hank, W6SX
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