[RTTY] PLEASE operate in the MAKROTHEN RTTY contest thisweekend!

Wed Oct 19 12:01:45 EDT 2016

Hi Barry,

You said:
Thus I must now compete DIRECTLY against others running 10x my power....
what is the point??

Maybe the 'point' is that you just enjoy taking part. I spent 25 years RTTY
contesting with just wires or verticals, from city locations, with no chance
of winning much, but had fun and learned a lot. 
There will always be other stations with 10x the power, single ops running
from rental mega-stations. 
Let's not forget that most of our contacts come from those who can't win but
still take part. There will still be a lot of us very pleased to see your
call on the screen!

John GW4SKA

-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry Murrell
ZS2EZ
Sent: 19 October 2016 14:10
To: 'John Barber' <john at bordertech.co.uk>; 'Julio VE3FH' <ve3fh at yahoo.ca>;
rtty at contesting.com
Cc: 'Ian GM4KLN' <ian at gm4kln.co.uk>; 'G3LDI Roger Cooke'
<roger at g3ldi.co.uk>; 'Simone Wilson' <m0box at btinternet.com>; 'Andrew G8GNI'
<g8gni.m5aex at gmail.com>; plummerc42 at hotmail.com; bartg at bartg.org.uk
Subject: Re: [RTTY] PLEASE operate in the MAKROTHEN RTTY contest
thisweekend!

Hi John and all concerned

I have an issue with this logic : Take for example my situation - South
Africa now has a Maximum Power level of 1KW... my amplifier (max 600W) has
packed up, and unless someone with WAY more knowledge than I have can fix it
(Not very likely in my location)I will be running Low Power for the
foreseeable future (there is simply NO WAY that I can afford another
amplifier, I would LOVE a new solid-state amp but at our exchange rate it
would cost me a year's income, if I gave up paying bills and didn't eat!!).
Thus I must now compete DIRECTLY against others running 10x my power....
what is the point??

My contesting for 2017 was already going to be limited to a selected handful
of events - I have now scratched the BARTG events off my list as being
impractical for me.

73 de BARRY MURRELL ZS2EZ
KF26ta - Port Elizabeth, South Africa
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DXCC(mixed)#41,146  DXCC(RTTY)#1,916
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WAZS(mixed)#214  AAA#1569
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(Satellite)
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-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of John Barber
Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2016 2:43 PM
To: 'Julio VE3FH' <ve3fh at yahoo.ca>; rtty at contesting.com
Cc: Ian GM4KLN <ian at gm4kln.co.uk>; G3LDI Roger Cooke <roger at g3ldi.co.uk>;
'Simone Wilson' <m0box at btinternet.com>; Andrew G8GNI
<g8gni.m5aex at gmail.com>; plummerc42 at hotmail.com; bartg at bartg.org.uk
Subject: Re: [RTTY] PLEASE operate in the MAKROTHEN RTTY contest
thisweekend!

Hi Julio,

I feel I should give an explanation as this was my policy with BARTG
contests before Simone took over.

My view has always been that power categories result in bad rules. Any rule
that is not enforceable is not a good idea. There is also a huge discrepancy
between the maximum power allowed in different regions. Here we are allowed
400W, your limit is 1500W, others run far more. On top of that there are
many stations with very limited antennas. Is the station with 100W to
stacked monobanders really low power, compared with 400W to a piece of wire?

I can assure you that BARTG have never intentionally been a QRO-oriented
group. We just try to have rules that are clear and cannot easily be
avoided.

John GW4SKA
BARTG President .. former contest manager

-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Julio VE3FH via
RTTY
Sent: 19 October 2016 02:31
To: RTTY Reflector <rtty at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] PLEASE operate in the MAKROTHEN RTTY contest
thisweekend!

Simone,

I do realize this is an old thread and I do realize another group is taking
over the Makrothen contest but you asked me a direct question and I feel I
owe you a direct answer so here it is...

Why?? Because of the three contests you sponsor none has low power
categories, I don't see what other conclusion I could possibly reach, you're
clearly a QRO-oriented group. I am not asking you to have low power
categories though, that's absolutely your prerogative.

73,
Julio VE3FH

----- Original Message -----
From: "Simone Wilson" <m0box at btinternet.com>
To: <rtty at contesting.com>
Sent: Sat, Oct 08, 2016 12:27
Subject: Re: [RTTY] PLEASE operate in the MAKROTHEN RTTY contest
thisweekend!

> Julio,
>
> Why would you think if BARTG took it on that the LP categories would
suffer?
> Just because our current contest suite doesn't cater for LP is not an 
> indication of a preference for QRO operation. I will be talking to the 
> committee about taking the contest on as it currently stands.
>
> So you are aware, I have to A) get the approval from the entire 
> committee and then B) ask my software guru to programme his 
> adjudication software to process it and then C) ask my Robot guru to 
> programme his website to
process
> the submitted logs. I won't therefore be able to give an answer in the
short
> term, but have faith.
>
> 73 de Simone. M0BOX
> BARTG Contest Manageress
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Julio 
> VE3FH
via
> RTTY
> Sent: 08 October 2016 01:32
> To: REFL-RTTY <RTTY at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] PLEASE operate in the MAKROTHEN RTTY contest 
> thisweekend!
>
> I hope another group takes over because if BARTG does the next 
> casualties will be the low power categories :(
>
> 73,
> Julio VE3FH
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Laws" <plaws0 at gmail.com>
> To: "Jeff Stai" <wk6i.jeff at gmail.com>
> Cc: "REFL-RTTY" <RTTY at contesting.com>
> Sent: Fri, Oct 07, 2016 15:29
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] PLEASE operate in the MAKROTHEN RTTY contest 
> thisweekend!
>
>
> > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Jeff Stai <wk6i.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > 6. We then have a year to figure out how to properly continue it.
> >
> >
> > Maybe BARTG would be interested in taking over?
> >
> >
> > --
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