[RTTY] Q Rate Killers

Tue Sep 27 09:40:53 EDT 2016

There is a space at the end of that and all my messages.  This is the first I've heard of the zone not being copied.

73,
Ed W0YK
On Sep 27, 2016 07:21, John Barber <john at bordertech.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Agree .. the exchange needs to match conditions. Most of last weekend, the 
> ideal report from the US was '599 state zone state zone ' when giving a 
> report to a CQing station. It's vital to change the macro as signal levels 
> change to get that balance between speed and avoiding repeats. 
> My sent report when CQing was 'hiscall 599 14' but changed to 'hiscall 599 
> 14 hiscall' when working a run of very weak JA stations. That maybe changed 
> a 10% 1st time reply to 95% first time reply. It's not worth repeating 599 
> 14 as they are known to all. 
> When the report gets cut too short and too quick it can be really annoying. 
> P49X was sending 'hiscall 599 09' with no space at the end or maybe cutting 
> TX too quickly. 3 contacts and I didn't print the zone once! Sorry Ed. 
> John GW4SKA 
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> -----Original Message----- 
> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry 
> Sent: 27 September 2016 03:54 
> To: rtty at contesting.com 
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Q Rate Killers 
>
> NR4M's reply is the real answer I think. You need to be willing to adjust 
> based on conditions and your station capabilities. 
>
> I find that 'his_call rst exch state his_call' (for CQWW RTTY) can be 
> helpful when running and a few stations are calling. The first 'his call' 
> may get clobbered but the DX will usually hear the second and be certain 
> your call is directed at him. If they need a repeat I may use F7 with the 
> exch and state each sent twice. I use 'his_call TU my_call' for 
> F3 which will hopefully finalize in the DX operator's mind what my call is. 
> Don't forget that if you get spotted it often doesn't matter what you send 
> for your call - "the cluster is always right"(?!) and so what is on the 
> cluster is obviously your call. 
>
> 73, Larry W6NWS 
>
>
> On 9/26/2016 10:02 PM, Art (K5FNQ) wrote: 
> > then what is the recommended minimum and maximum to send? 
> > 
> > N1MM default has "his call, sec, state, sec, state, mycall" 
> > 
> > At times with a strong station I would hit escape before "my call" was 
> > sent.  I had no problem with that. 
> > 
> > Cutting to "sec state sec state" scares me that the other station 
> > might not have my call or I might have busted his? 
> > 
> > Art K5FNQ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 9/26/2016 20:56, Steve Bookout wrote: 
> >> 
> >> If you can be loud, then you can send less stuff. Unfortunately, not 
> >> everyone can be loud all the time. 
> >> 
> >> I start with one of each exchange element and if it's noisy and I'm 
> >> getting a bunch or requests for repeats, then I'll add additional 
> >> exchange info. 
> >> 
> >> Steve 
> >> 
> >> On 9/26/2016 9:16:PM, Jeff AC0C wrote: 
> >>> Tom, 
> >>> 
> >>> The exchange content for peak efficiency is just on the border where 
> >>> you are infrequently asked for a fill.  If you almost never get a 
> >>> request, then I would say your content is too redundant. Keeping it 
> >>> simple, on the next contest drop your exchange by one of each 
> >>> element and see how it goes.  In any event, do drop the "UR" out of 
> >>> it in all cases. 
> >>> 
> >>> Have fun! 
> >>> 
> >>> 73/jeff/ac0c 
> >>> www.ac0c.com 
> >>> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie 
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Magarelli 
> >>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:37 PM 
> >>> To: RTTY at contesting.com 
> >>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Q Rate Killers 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I'm not sure if I'm one of the guilty parties 
> >>> 
> >>> My exchange was   K4SBZ  UR 599 NJ NJ NJ 05 05 05 
> >>> 
> >>> My thought was to send my state and zone 3 times, hopefully not 
> >>> needing a repeat. That seemed to work I only had 1 station ask me 
> >>> for a repeat of my State. My thinking was not having a lot of 
> >>> repeats, I could make more contacts and move along quicker. 
> >>> 
> >>> Please tell me if my thinking is wrong. I'm not in the big league 
> >>> either, just trying to have some fun. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message----- 
> >>> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Stanley 
> >>> Zawrotny 
> >>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:41 PM 
> >>> To: RTTY at contesting.com 
> >>> Subject: [RTTY] Q Rate Killers 
> >>> 
> >>> A while back, there was a discussion about how extra spaces and 
> >>> characters 
> >>> slow down an exchange. Those a nothing compared to the many ops that I 
> >>> worked in the CQ WW DX RTTY Contest last weekend that took 15-20 
> >>> seconds or 
> >>> longer to reply. I'm not in the big leagues and worry about 
> >>> milliseconds, 
> >>> but when it takes almost a minute to complete a contact, that gets 
> >>> to me. 
> >>> 
> >>> Stan, K4SBZ 
> >>> 
> >>> "Real radio bounces off the sky." 
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