[RTTY] QTCs

[John Barber]

Steve,
I asked a polite question:
> In previous years I have found the QTCs easy to handle. Either the 
> conditions were so much worse this time or something has changed in 
> the
> N1MM+ routine. Did anyone else have these problems?

I had a good clear answer from Rick, who I am sure was not offended by my question. I certainly have nothing but admiration for the N1MM+ development team.
So why this nonsense about 'grousing/bitching/complaining' , 'fall on his sword', 'people who become too obsessed with the issue' ?
John GW4SKA



-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Steve Bookout
Sent: 16 November 2017 14:02
To: rtty at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] QTCs

Hello all,

With respect to all.

After this message from Rick, there should be no more grousing/bitching/complaining.

He shouldn't have to, nor be expected to 'fall on his sword', over any errors dealing with WAE.

Put things in some perspective.  These are unintentional software bugs, introduced while attempting to improve the program, by someone not getting paid for any of his time or efforts, to satisfy people who, in my opinion, become too obsessed with the issue, and show no appreciation to any of the developers.   If you have issues you can't get past, get your money back, buy a better program, or build one yourself.

I am no cheerleader for the development team; there are bugs/changes that I've had heartburn with, but once put into perspective with contesting, my own narrow-minded needs and ham radio in general, they don't amount to anything to get worked up over.

73 de Steve, NR4M

On 11/15/2017 3:45:PM, Rick Ellison wrote:
> John and others.
>
> There was a change that I made to the QTC routines for WAE SSB.
> Unintentional doing so broke the receiving of QTC for RTTY. On 
> Saturday morning I made a change that corrected this and a update was 
> posted to the N1MM group. In the latest public update yesterday 2 
> other errors reported by user have also been fixed and the QTC 
> operation should be back to the way it was previously. I had done 
> testing before the WEA contest but on my development computer I had 
> not noticed the bugs that were visible in the full release. I do 
> apologize that I did not detect and correct them before the contest started..
>
> 73 Rick N2AMG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of John 
> Barber
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:30 PM
> To: rtty at contesting.com
> Subject: [RTTY] QTCs
>
> Several times I sent QTCs, was asked to repeat all, then had the 
> receiving station give up. They had all the data but could not enter 
> it in N1MM+. If they then sent to me it was fine except for missed 
> CRLFs, which put 2 or 3 QTC lines on the screen with no breaks. That 
> was a real problem to manually enter and lost a lot of time.
>
> In previous years I have found the QTCs easy to handle. Either the 
> conditions were so much worse this time or something has changed in 
> the
> N1MM+ routine. Did anyone else have these problems?
>
> John GW4SKA
>
>
>
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