[SCCC] RE: K6XT NAQP 80 and 160 score

Art k6xt at arrl.net
Mon Jan 10 01:08:11 EST 2005


W6KY Art,
Yes, the Ignacio DX and Contesting Club, I-DXCC, (Members=2, K0YW and
K6XT) is seeking members. Y'all come, there's plenty of room. Especially
the younger, fearless, tower climbers.

That's a BIG score you got, OM. Congratulations, and thanks for sending
the snow (you call it rain).

73 K6XT Art

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Today's Topics:

   1. Time help (Rick Darwicki)
   2. My two cents. (Rick Darwicki)
   3. wa6bob RTTY round up (John Orton)
   4. NAQP - CW:    W6TK - SO Ab LP (Dick Stepanian)
   5. W6EEN NAQP CW (Doug Brandon N6RT)
   6. NAQP SSB Team Members needed (Doug Brandon N6RT)
   7. Re: NAQP SSB Team Members needed (Art)
   8. W6KY - NAQP CW (Art)
   9. SCCC = SCCC (Art)
  10. Convention in Riverside (Becky K6EY)
  11. RE: SCCC Digest, Vol 25, Issue 5 (Art)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:22:06 -0800
From: "Rick Darwicki" <n6pe at pacbell.net>
Subject: [SCCC] Time help
To: <SCCC at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <013c01c4f680$81e064b0$210110ac at n6pe>
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HI all,

My little old Compaq Aero logging computer apparently kills the clock if
you hit the off button without the function key and I logged a bunch of
QSOs before I noticed the problem.

I you remember working me between 2100 and 0100 (other times are OK)
please send me the time of the QSO so I can adjust the log.

As you can see my antennas and I performed equally poorly on all bands.
160 was 40 over noise.

 band      QSOs      points    mults
     -----------------------------------
     160          6           6       1
      80         84          84      32
      40         61          61      29
      20         61          61      34
      15         32          32      24
      10         48          48      19
     -----------------------------------
     TOTAL      292         292     139      SCORE: 40,588



Rick Darwicki  -= N6PE =-
=================================================
17775 Elmhurst Circle
Yorba Linda, CA 92886
 
http://www.stores.ebay.com/n6peradiotubes
 
http://www.qsl.net/n6pe/


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:40:23 -0800
From: "Rick Darwicki" <n6pe at pacbell.net>
Subject: [SCCC] My two cents.
To: <SCCC at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <014701c4f683$0faf1e60$210110ac at n6pe>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

No doubt you all remember when the ARRL didn't want to recognize
"contesting" as a ham radio activity.  There were only "Operating
Events" listings in QST.  The change to "Contest Corral" always seemed
like a childish name and a poke in the eye to me.

If FD is the emergency training "contest" let's swap the SS exchange. 

Codeless license, just another scheme to make money ?  

Not listing every contest score in QST, how cheap can you be ?

Best thing I ever did was get a Life Membership for $125, my way of
getting even


Hey, it's a rainy day........ 
 
Rick Darwicki  -= N6PE =-


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:15:41 +0000
From: John Orton <wa6bob at arrl.net>
Subject: [SCCC] wa6bob RTTY round up
To: sccc <SCCC at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <41E1D73D.2000406 at arrl.net>
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ARRL RTTY Roundup

Call: WA6BOB
Operator(s): WA6BOB
Station: WA6BOB

Class: Single Op HP
QTH: CA
Operating Time (hrs): 9

Summary:
 Band  QSOs
------------
   80:   46
   40:  111
   20:  132
   15:   74
   10:    0
------------
Total:  363  State/Prov = 47  Countries = 14  Total Score = 22,143

Club: Southern California Contest Club




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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:15:11 -0800
From: Dick Stepanian <w6tk at juno.com>
Subject: [SCCC] NAQP - CW:    W6TK - SO Ab LP
To: sccc at contesting.com
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                    North American QSO Party, CW

Call: W6TK
Operator(s): W6TK
Station: W6TK

Class: Single Op LP
QTH: CA
Operating Time (hrs): 4:30

Summary:
 Band  QSOs  Mults
-------------------
  160:    0     0
   80:   27    14
   40:  100    40
   20:   62    32
   15:  143    42
   10:   48    25
-------------------
Total:  380   153  Total Score = 57,987

Club: Southern California Contest Club

Team: SECC Team #3

Comments:

Limited time to play...but always fun...tnx.
73's
Dick

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:25:30 -0800
From: Doug Brandon N6RT <n6rt at dabware.com>
Subject: [SCCC] W6EEN NAQP CW
To: SCCC Reflector <sccc at contesting.com>
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                     North American QSO Party, CW

Call: W6EEN
Operator(s): N6RT
Station: W6EEN

Class: Single Op LP
QTH: CA
Operating Time (hrs): 5
Radios: SO2R

Summary:
  Band  QSOs  Mults
-------------------
   160:    0     0
    80:    1     1
    40:   23    20
    20:  133    48
    15:  268    55
    10:  162    47
-------------------
Total:  587   171  Total Score = 100,377

Club: Southern California Contest Club

Team: SCCC #2



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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:28:31 -0800
From: Doug Brandon N6RT <n6rt at dabware.com>
Subject: [SCCC] NAQP SSB Team Members needed
To: SCCC Reflector <sccc at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050109182744.036ccc18 at corelis.com>
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Great participation in the NAQP CW contest!  No breaks, the NAQP SSB 
contest is coming up this weekend.  Please email me to get on a team.

    73 de Doug, N6RT


So far I have:

W6YI (N6MJ)
K6LL
K6AM



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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:15:22 -0800
From: Art <w6ky at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [SCCC] NAQP SSB Team Members needed
To: Doug Brandon N6RT <n6rt at dabware.com>
Cc: SCCC Reflector <sccc at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <41E2015A.7070804 at sbcglobal.net>
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Doug,  Put me down for 'Team Last', High Power, Single Band!    30 Meter
SSB
73, Art  W6KY

Doug Brandon N6RT wrote:

> Great participation in the NAQP CW contest!  No breaks, the NAQP SSB
> contest is coming up this weekend.  Please email me to get on a team.
>
>    73 de Doug, N6RT
>
>
> So far I have:
>
> W6YI (N6MJ)
> K6LL
> K6AM
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:20:32 -0800
From: Art <w6ky at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [SCCC] W6KY - NAQP CW
To: sccc at contesting.com
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   North American QSO Party, CW

Call: W6KY
Operator(s): W6KY
Station: W6KY

Class: Single Op LP
QTH: CA
Operating Time (hrs): 5.5

Summary:
 Band  QSOs  Mults
-------------------
  160:    3     1
   80:   92    29
   40:   98    32
   20:   61    32
   15:   79    35
   10:   73    31
-------------------
Total:  406   160  Total Score = 64,960

Club: Southern California Contest Club

Team: SCCC #4

Comments:

Bands were very quiet (no QRN) here in Southern Calif. Worked stations
on 80 I would have never heard due to zero noise level. Nothing like a
few feet of 'rain' to lower the noise..20 meters shut down early... My
favorite contest but only had a few hours. I work weekends. Whats wrong
with this picture?
Art  W6KY   www.w6ky.com




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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:24:47 -0800
From: Art <w6ky at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [SCCC] SCCC = SCCC
To: sccc at contesting.com
Message-ID: <41E2038F.2080303 at sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

After looking at Art's score for 160 and 80 meters

160    	106	36
80     	154	47

we should ALL move to Southern Colorado. We could
even keep our club name and logo.
Southern Colorado Contest Club = SCCC
73,  Art  W6KY
http://www.w6ky.com




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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:52:53 +0000
From: "Becky K6EY" <k6ey at hotmail.com>
Subject: [SCCC] Convention in Riverside
To: sccc at contesting.com
Message-ID: <BAY17-F40AAA582021A59B4E116D8E970 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

Hello guys...

The committee for programs for the ARRL Riverside convention coming this

September 9th through the 11th has asked me to find someone who would be

willing to give a talk about contesting. This is a great opportunity to 
light the fire for some new contesters!
I hope that one (or more!!) of us will step forward and volunteer to do 
this...please contact me asap at...


k6ey at verizon.net
k6ey at hotmail.com
(909) 465-9217 home
(909) 815-4877 cell

If you have another area of interest/expertise for a seminar....please
let 
me know as they have several slots to fill...

Thanks
73
BecK6EY




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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:45:50 -0700
From: "Art" <k6xt at arrl.net>
Subject: [SCCC] RE: SCCC Digest, Vol 25, Issue 5
To: <sccc at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000301c4f6d7$ab5c2200$0100a8c0 at IBM>
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Dick

In my experience, the time you quote is totally off by a factor of 10.
This is because it does not account for the many contest entrants who
don't know what SDG is, and therefor ask for repeat, repeat, repeat,
until we SDG folks send 'San Diego CA in the Southwest Division you
Idiot' a couple times. Next over, I'll put it more succinctly.

I vote for 2 letter abbreviations. Which set, I'll leave to our capable
management to figure out.

73 Art

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Today's Topics:

   1. Two-letter ARRL Section Abbreviations? (Richard J. Norton)
   2. Re: Two-letter ARRL Section Abbreviations? (Leigh S. Jones)
   3. Re: Two-letter ARRL Section Abbreviations? (Dennis Younker NE6I)
   4. K6XT CW NAQP (Art)
   5. Preferred NAQP Log Submission Method (Bruce Horn)
   6. Re: Two-letter ARRL Section Abbreviations? (Dennis Vernacchia)
   7. Re: K6XT CW NAQP (Dennis Vernacchia)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 10:41:23 -0800
From: "Richard J. Norton" <ae327 at lafn.org>
Subject: [SCCC] Two-letter ARRL Section Abbreviations?
To: "SCCC" <SCCC at contesting.com>
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The Poles do. The Japanese do it. Why can't we do it?

Back in the old days, the number in our American callsigns denoted our
geographic area. If you had a 6 in your continental USA callsign, you
were in California.

In ARRL contests, like the Sweepstakes, those of us in the Los Angeles
section used LA for our section abbreviation. San Diego was SD.

When the FCC eliminated the necessary connection between location and
callsign number, the ARRL changed the CW abbreviation for Los Angeles to
LAX, and that of San Diego to SDG, to avoid confusion with Louisiana and
South Dakota.

The 2.5 times as many ARRL members in the Los Angeles (compared to the
number in Louisiana) section got saddled with sending an extra X. There
are 4.2 times as many ARRL members in San Diego as there are in South
Dakota, and those members got saddled with sending an extra G in each
exchange.

On CW, if one makes 1200 QSOs, the 1200 additional Xs sent by a Los
Angeles competitor (when compared to one in Louisiana) will eat up 20
minutes of operating time!

The Poles and Japanese have crafted two-letter abbreviations for the
multipliers in their CW contests. Why shouldn't we?

Questions:

1) Is it desirable to change the 3-letter abbreviations to 2-letter
abbreviations? I agree there will be a slight transition time where we
have to learn something new.

2) If yes, what should the abbreviations for the Southwestern Division
sections be?

Los Angeles - LO LS LX AN?
Orange -  OG NG?
San Diego - SG DG GO?
Santa Barbara - already SB
Arizona - already AZ

Although I have a pretty close relationship with the present ARRL
Southwestern Division Director, and there is an ARRL Board meeting in
two weeks, I don't believe this will be brought up at the meeting. I am
not sure this is something requiring Board action. It may get mentioned
informally for consideration in the future.

What are your views?

73,

Dick Norton, N6AA
SCCC President




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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:42:30 -0800
From: "Leigh S. Jones" <kr6x at kr6x.com>
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Two-letter ARRL Section Abbreviations?
To: "SCCC" <SCCC at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <0fce01c4f60e$036ac340$ede3c23f at KR6X.ORG>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I'd like to voice my agreement with Dick in this issue.  My feelings are
very strong in this matter.  This was one of the issues that led me to
stop contesting for the 1980's decade, and has left me a strong critic
of the ARRL for a quarter of a century.

Humorously, I'd like to suggest the following: the Connecticut section
should be required for the next quarter of a century to send the full
name (no abbreviations, please) of it's section as a penalty for the
disservice that it has done to the amateur radio service in this matter.
This shoud apply to the state for the ARRL DX Contest as well.  Maybe
then ARRL HQ will begin to understand.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard J. Norton" <ae327 at lafn.org>
To: "SCCC" <SCCC at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:41 AM
Subject: [SCCC] Two-letter ARRL Section Abbreviations?


> The Poles do. The Japanese do it. Why can't we do it?
>
> Back in the old days, the number in our American callsigns denoted
our
> geographic area. If you had a 6 in your continental USA callsign,
you were in
> California.
>
> In ARRL contests, like the Sweepstakes, those of us in the Los
Angeles section
> used LA for our section abbreviation. San Diego was SD.
>
> When the FCC eliminated the necessary connection between location
and callsign
> number, the ARRL changed the CW abbreviation for Los Angeles to LAX,
and that
> of San Diego to SDG, to avoid confusion with Louisiana and South
Dakota.
>
> The 2.5 times as many ARRL members in the Los Angeles (compared to
the number
> in Louisiana) section got saddled with sending an extra X. There are
4.2 times
> as many ARRL members in San Diego as there are in South Dakota, and
those
> members got saddled with sending an extra G in each exchange.
>
> On CW, if one makes 1200 QSOs, the 1200 additional Xs sent by a Los
Angeles
> competitor (when compared to one in Louisiana) will eat up 20
minutes of
> operating time!
>
> The Poles and Japanese have crafted two-letter abbreviations for the
> multipliers in their CW contests. Why shouldn't we?
>
> Questions:
>
> 1) Is it desirable to change the 3-letter abbreviations to 2-letter
> abbreviations? I agree there will be a slight transition time where we

> have to
learn something
> new.
>
> 2) If yes, what should the abbreviations for the Southwestern
Division sections
> be?
>
> Los Angeles - LO LS LX AN?
> Orange -  OG NG?
> San Diego - SG DG GO?
> Santa Barbara - already SB
> Arizona - already AZ
>
> Although I have a pretty close relationship with the present ARRL
Southwestern
> Division Director, and there is an ARRL Board meeting in two weeks,
I don't
> believe this will be brought up at the meeting. I am not sure this
is something
> requiring Board action. It may get mentioned informally for
consideration in
> the future.
>
> What are your views?
>
> 73,
>
> Dick Norton, N6AA
> SCCC President
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SCCC mailing list
> SCCC at contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/sccc



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:54:25 -0800
From: "Dennis Younker NE6I" <ne6i at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Two-letter ARRL Section Abbreviations?
To: "SCCC" <SCCC at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <02b601c4f60f$ac94c5f0$6401a8c0 at dyounker>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

How about if we fix the numbering system at the FCC?  I say this only
half 
facetious.  After all, a new licensee doesn't get a choice of numbers in

his/her call sign.  Therefore, the numbers still mean something 
geographically to the FCC.  They are simply confused and are trying to
sit 
on the fence.  They need to be on one side or the other, not both.

While we wait,

Los Angeles should be LA, Louisiana can be LO or LOA
San Diego SD, South Dakota SO or SDK
Orange OR, Oregon OG or ORG or ORN

Majority rules, therefore the larger metropolitan areas get the two
letter 
designations if we must have two AND three letters for mults.  If we can

convert to two only, the larger areas get the more sensible letter 
combinations.

The "downside" sited by Dick was already foisted on us once when LA
became 
LAX and SD became SDG. As contesters, we can deal with one more time to 
right the wrong.

One other possibility...Los Angeles and Louisiana share LA. San Diego
and 
South Dakota share SD, etc. The ARRL has to keep an accurate database to

sort it out as we submit logs.  The onus is shifted to them until they 
successfully lobby the FCC to correct the numbering scheme.

And I second the notion that CT becomes CONNECTICUT in the interim.
Anyone 
signing W1AW in contests must send ARRLHQ/CONNECTICUT.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leigh S. Jones" <kr6x at kr6x.com>
To: "SCCC" <SCCC at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Two-letter ARRL Section Abbreviations?


> I'd like to voice my agreement with Dick in this issue.  My feelings
> are very strong in this matter.  This was one of the issues that led 
> me to stop contesting
> for the 1980's decade, and has left me a strong critic of the ARRL for
> a
> quarter of a century.
>
> Humorously, I'd like to suggest the following: the Connecticut section

> should be required for the next quarter of a century to send the full
> name (no
> abbreviations, please) of it's section as a penalty for the disservice
> that it has
> done to the amateur radio service in this matter.  This shoud apply to
> the
> state for the ARRL DX Contest as well.  Maybe then ARRL HQ will begin
> to understand.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard J. Norton" <ae327 at lafn.org>
> To: "SCCC" <SCCC at contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:41 AM
> Subject: [SCCC] Two-letter ARRL Section Abbreviations?
>
>
>> The Poles do. The Japanese do it. Why can't we do it?
>>
>> Back in the old days, the number in our American callsigns denoted
> our
>> geographic area. If you had a 6 in your continental USA callsign,
> you were in
>> California.
>>
>> In ARRL contests, like the Sweepstakes, those of us in the Los
> Angeles section
>> used LA for our section abbreviation. San Diego was SD.
>>
>> When the FCC eliminated the necessary connection between location
> and callsign
>> number, the ARRL changed the CW abbreviation for Los Angeles to LAX,
> and that
>> of San Diego to SDG, to avoid confusion with Louisiana and South
> Dakota.
>>
>> The 2.5 times as many ARRL members in the Los Angeles (compared to
> the number
>> in Louisiana) section got saddled with sending an extra X. There are
> 4.2 times
>> as many ARRL members in San Diego as there are in South Dakota, and
> those
>> members got saddled with sending an extra G in each exchange.
>>
>> On CW, if one makes 1200 QSOs, the 1200 additional Xs sent by a Los
> Angeles
>> competitor (when compared to one in Louisiana) will eat up 20
> minutes of
>> operating time!
>>
>> The Poles and Japanese have crafted two-letter abbreviations for the
>> multipliers in their CW contests. Why shouldn't we?
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> 1) Is it desirable to change the 3-letter abbreviations to 2-letter
>> abbreviations? I agree there will be a slight transition time where 
>> we have to
> learn something
>> new.
>>
>> 2) If yes, what should the abbreviations for the Southwestern
> Division sections
>> be?
>>
>> Los Angeles - LO LS LX AN?
>> Orange -  OG NG?
>> San Diego - SG DG GO?
>> Santa Barbara - already SB
>> Arizona - already AZ
>>
>> Although I have a pretty close relationship with the present ARRL
> Southwestern
>> Division Director, and there is an ARRL Board meeting in two weeks,
> I don't
>> believe this will be brought up at the meeting. I am not sure this
> is something
>> requiring Board action. It may get mentioned informally for
> consideration in
>> the future.
>>
>> What are your views?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Dick Norton, N6AA
>> SCCC President
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SCCC mailing list
>> SCCC at contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/sccc
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:29:49 -0700
From: "Art" <k6xt at arrl.net>
Subject: [SCCC] K6XT CW NAQP
To: <sccc at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000401c4f614$9fd016d0$0100a8c0 at IBM>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

	160    	106	36
	80     	154	47
	40     	83	34
	20     	136	43 
	15     	81	33 
	10     	22	13 
	TOTAL	582	206

  582   QSOs  *   x       206  Mult =   119892     Claimed Score 
Modest stuff, GAP Titan and low off center fed dipole at new QTH. Hope
this little bit helps the club. Sure was fun.



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:48:29 -0800
From: Bruce Horn <bhorn at hornucopia.com>
Subject: [SCCC] Preferred NAQP Log Submission Method
To: sccc at contesting.com
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050108224340.0548dec0 at mail.hornucopia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Hi,

For those SCCC members who don't subscribe to the CQ-Contest reflector,
or 
who did not read the updated 2005 NAQP rules, the preferred method of 
submitting your NAQP logs (all modes) is via the web form available at:

http://www.ncjweb.com/naqplogsubmit.php

The form will provide you with immediate confirmation of your entry. The

usual e-mail addresses are still available if you are unsuccessful with
the 
form.

Thanks for your cooperation.

73 de Bruce, WA7BNM   (bhorn at hornucopia.com)




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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:29:19 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki_73 at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Two-letter ARRL Section Abbreviations?
To: "Richard J. Norton" <ae327 at lafn.org>, SCCC <SCCC at contesting.com>
Message-ID:
	
<31108132.1105259360032.JavaMail.root at fozzie.psp.pas.earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Ok with me ...and to really liven it up..let's use "TJ" for San Diego We
are just a suburb of Tijuana...aren't we?


...or maybe N6TJ would like to have that reserved for Los Angeles area
seeing as LA is REALLY a suburb of Mexico....

I know...not Politically correct..Heh Heh

73, XE2/N6KI





-----Original Message-----
From: "Richard J. Norton" <ae327 at lafn.org>
Sent: Jan 8, 2005 10:41 AM
To: SCCC <SCCC at contesting.com>
Subject: [SCCC] Two-letter ARRL Section Abbreviations?

The Poles do. The Japanese do it. Why can't we do it?

Back in the old days, the number in our American callsigns denoted our
geographic area. If you had a 6 in your continental USA callsign, you
were in California.

In ARRL contests, like the Sweepstakes, those of us in the Los Angeles
section used LA for our section abbreviation. San Diego was SD.

When the FCC eliminated the necessary connection between location and
callsign number, the ARRL changed the CW abbreviation for Los Angeles to
LAX, and that of San Diego to SDG, to avoid confusion with Louisiana and
South Dakota.

The 2.5 times as many ARRL members in the Los Angeles (compared to the
number in Louisiana) section got saddled with sending an extra X. There
are 4.2 times as many ARRL members in San Diego as there are in South
Dakota, and those members got saddled with sending an extra G in each
exchange.

On CW, if one makes 1200 QSOs, the 1200 additional Xs sent by a Los
Angeles competitor (when compared to one in Louisiana) will eat up 20
minutes of operating time!

The Poles and Japanese have crafted two-letter abbreviations for the
multipliers in their CW contests. Why shouldn't we?

Questions:

1) Is it desirable to change the 3-letter abbreviations to 2-letter
abbreviations? I agree there will be a slight transition time where we
have to learn something new.

2) If yes, what should the abbreviations for the Southwestern Division
sections be?

Los Angeles - LO LS LX AN?
Orange -  OG NG?
San Diego - SG DG GO?
Santa Barbara - already SB
Arizona - already AZ

Although I have a pretty close relationship with the present ARRL
Southwestern Division Director, and there is an ARRL Board meeting in
two weeks, I don't believe this will be brought up at the meeting. I am
not sure this is something requiring Board action. It may get mentioned
informally for consideration in the future.

What are your views?

73,

Dick Norton, N6AA
SCCC President


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:35:57 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki_73 at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [SCCC] K6XT CW NAQP
To: k6xt at arrl.net, sccc at contesting.com
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Well...we can see the new location for ART is "dam" quiet on 80 and 160
!

Preliminary report from Pepe, XE2MX is

840 X 234 = 197,000

Band info to follow

XE2/N6KI 



-----Original Message-----
From: Art <k6xt at arrl.net>
Sent: Jan 8, 2005 10:29 PM
To: sccc at contesting.com
Subject: [SCCC] K6XT CW NAQP

	160    	106	36
	80     	154	47
	40     	83	34
	20     	136	43 
	15     	81	33 
	10     	22	13 
	TOTAL	582	206

  582   QSOs  *   x       206  Mult =   119892     Claimed Score 
Modest stuff, GAP Titan and low off center fed dipole at new QTH. Hope
this little bit helps the club. Sure was fun.

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