[SCCC] Operating on a County Line - LOTW

[Dennis Younker NE6I]

Jim, the difference is that in TQSL, one can enter multiple grids in the
station location. Not true though in the county field. The county field is a
drop down box and only one can be selected at a time.

--Dennis NE6I

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Price <jnprice at pacbell.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 1:05 PM
To: 'Tree' <tree at kkn.net>; 'Dennis Younker NE6I' <NE6I at cox.net>
Cc: SCCC at contesting.com
Subject: RE: [SCCC] Operating on a County Line - LOTW

Not to muddy the waters here, but LOTW handles multiple grid squares in one
QSO just fine - up to 4 grid squares if one happens to be at a confluence.
Seems to me, conceptually, that county lines should be just like grid square
lines?  Just askin'.

73 - Jim K6ZH


-----Original Message-----
From: SCCC <sccc-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Tree
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 8:28 AM
To: Dennis Younker NE6I <NE6I at cox.net>
Cc: SCCC at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [SCCC] Operating on a County Line - LOTW

I can perhaps add a small bit of data to this discussion.

While you can't upload two QSOs that perfectly match (and maybe even that
have slight time differences) - you can upload two QSOs that match except
for your own callsign.

I upload duplicate QSO entries all the time - one with N6TR and one with
N6TR/7.  That way - regardless of how I am logged - the QSO will match one
or the other.  Then you can combine them for awards.

This probably doesn't open the door to any easy solution for the county line
problem - unless everyone decides to adopt some kind of definition of what
you can put after the / sign to identify your county.  However, even with
that - it would be a pain getting callsign certificates for each county and
dealing with all of the individual uploads.

I know the ARRL keeps thinking about a major LOTW upgrade - and certainly
tackling this problem would be a worthy feature to include in that.

73 Tree N6TR and N6TR/7 (but not K7RAT/7)

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 7:41 AM Dennis Younker NE6I <NE6I at cox.net> wrote:

> Thanks Greg and others. This makes sense although I'm not sure if a 
> minute will be enough. I believe there is a small window where QSOs 
> match even if the timestamps are slightly different at each end.
> Regardless, I guess it's actually moot since as you say, LOTW does not 
> support USA-CA or any other county awards at this time. I'll remind 
> the person that brought this up of this fact.
>
> --Dennis NE6I
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SCCC <sccc-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Greg De Hoogh
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 7:26 PM
> To: SCCC at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [SCCC] Operating on a County Line - LOTW
>
> This came up in the LoTW email discussion group recently. Apparently, 
> LoTW doesn't support multiple counties per entry at this time because 
> it doesn't support any awards that require county information. So, in 
> order to confirm a contact from more than one county, you would need 
> to upload a separate record for each county. You can't just upload the 
> same ADIF file for each county, though, because if the timestamp and 
> callsign of a particular record matches one that's already on LoTW, 
> the second one will replace the first one. So, you need to change the 
> time for the second contact by a minute or more to avoid this 
> replacement. Caveat:
> While the person who explained it seems to know what he's talking 
> about, I have not idea whether that's actually true or not ... but 
> it's
believable.
>
> 73, Greg N6PM
>
> On 10/11/2021 5:41 PM, Dennis Younker NE6I wrote:
> > Does anyone know the answer to this?
> >
> >
> >
> > You've operated on a County line (good for two counties for other 
> > people's awards). How do you configure TQSL to give credit for both 
> > counties to the stations worked? The county field in TQSL is a drop 
> > down box, so you cannot enter more than one county.
> >
> >
> >
> > --Dennis NE6I
> >
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