[SCCC] The Trivialization of Contests --- Self Spotting

[Tree]

" I believe self spotting is only allowed for multi-op and assisted
(unlimited) categories."

Welcome to the new reality - it has changed over the past year - for ARRL
Contests only (thank goodness).

Tree N6TR

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 3:07 PM KURT PAUER via SCCC <sccc at contesting.com>
wrote:

> I believe self spotting is only allowed for multi-op and assisted
> (unlimited) categories.
> 73, Kurt W6PH
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 10, 2023, at 1:17 PM, Jim Neiger <n6tj at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > A year ago, the ARRL surprised most of us with the rules change that
> self spotting will be allowed in their contests.  Numerous opinions were
> stated on the Contesting Reflector, and I will not regurgitate them here.
> But I'd like to offer a couple of my own, for whatever they're worth.
> >
> > 1. Some time ago,  The ARRL Contest Advisory Committee posted a
> so-called white paper on the ARRL Home Page, entitled "HF Contesting - Good
> Practices, Interpretations and Suggestions" which stated in Paragraph 6)
> Spotting and Use of Spots,
> > a) "Self spotting is the practice of announcing your own call and run
> frequency on the spotting network. A few contests have categories that
> allow self-spotting, but most don't.  For example, ARRL contest rules
> specifically prohibit both self-spotting and requesting spotting by other
> stations.  It's a form of CQ-ing that does not take place on the amateur
> bands, JUST A STEP AWAY FROM MAKING PHONE CALLS TO SOLICIT CONTACTS".
> >
> > 2.  I think that the League, or its Contest Advisory Committee, or ??
> should have solicited opinions from active contesters.
> >
> > 3.  It was interesting to read, or hear, statements of denial from ARRL
> CAC and/or Directors who said that they really didn't have a say in this
> radical change of self spotting.  Who is running this show anyway?  It
> certainly ain't we members.
> >
> > 4.   In the recent ARRL DX CW and SSB contests, I found it noteworthy to
> see who decided they needed to self spot to win, or compete.  Kudos to Andy
> AE6Y (at his P49Y operation in the recent ARRL DX SSB)  comment on 3830
> that "he didn't self spot, and he disapproved of it on principle", but may
> be forced to change his ways.
> >
> > QUESTION:  My interpretation of Paragraph 1., above, how come Self
> Spotting doesn't make one "Assisted" or Unlimited?  Self Spotters have
> "called CQ" on something other than an amateur band.
> >
> >   The genie's out of the bottle.  If a contest is going to allow Self
> Spotting, simply move those who do to the Unlimited column. Let's see if
> anyone reverts back to our fondly remembered Old School.
> >
> > Very 73,
> > Jim Neiger  N6TJ
> >
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