[SCCC] Asking ChatGPT for CQWW advice

[Phil Minch]

AS Bruce said:  *LLMs never say "I don't know."*
I want that on a bumper sticker.

On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 9:57 AM Ryan Huggins via SCCC <sccc at contesting.com>
wrote:

> Sorry I wasn't online this weekend for your clean sweep.  Two or three of
> us on this list are in SB, please reach out next time you need this
> section.  I'm always happy to fire up the radio to help out a fellow SCCC
> if my schedule and other activities allow for it.
>
> Ryan
>
> -73
> Ryan, KI6BTY
>
>
> On Monday, November 17th, 2025 at 9:47 AM, Dick Stepanian <
> dickw6tk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Clayton and all,
> > This is Dick - W6TK. I just saw your email. I will try to respond more
> > later. I have a pretty full few days. I often jumped in and did the best
> I
> > could with the time and station I had. I didn't do a lot of pre-planning
> -
> > so if you can keep your BIC and have a working station with reasonable
> > antennas - you will probably beat the score. At any rate go for it and
> > have fun....records are there to be beaten and they will be.
> >
> > I finally am getting my station on line up in OR. I played about 10
> > hours in this weekend's SS-SSB - got all but SB for the Clean-sweep!
> Still
> > fun and always a challenge1
> > .
> >
> > 73 and good luck,
> > Dick - W6TK
> > PS let me know if you have specific questions and I'll try my best to
> > answer.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 9:36 AM Paul Gacek via SCCC sccc at contesting.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Clayton
> > >
> > > ChatGPT is great.
> > >
> > > However, you might want to consider two other approaches to
> interfacing to
> > > a frontier LLM.
> > >
> > > Both are predicated on you mustering relevant information such as PDFs,
> > > web links etc. Once you’ve found a corpus of data then either;
> > >
> > > A) Use LangChain to create a RAG ( Retrieval Augmented Gen) and feed it
> > > your collection of data
> > > B) use NoteBookLM which is essentially a front end to a RAG based on
> > > Googles Gemini.
> > >
> > > Once either of the above is done then ask questions about the contest
> and
> > > see what you get.
> > >
> > > …..or as Bruce suggested seek advice of a real human!
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > > On Nov 17, 2025, at 8:53 AM, Bruce Horn bhorn at hornucopia.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Clayton,
> > > >
> > > > Without spending a lot of time on the lengthy "analysis" ChatGPT
> > > > produced, my observations are:
> > > >
> > > > - the "strategy" it produced seems to be a regurgitation of published
> > > > information about contesting, rather than specific to LP or to
> operating
> > > > from S.Calif, but that's what I would expect since there wouldn't be
> much
> > > > data it trained on that would be specific to your needs. LLMs never
> say "I
> > > > don't know."
> > > >
> > > > - the log analysis doesn't seem to reflect W6TK's log. Looks like
> Dick
> > > > spent most of his time S&Ping, but ran for a couple of periods when
> his run
> > > > rate exceeded his S&P rate. Overall, he averaged 33 Qs/hour based on
> his
> > > > 3830scores posting, with an 82Q hour.
> > > >
> > > > - you'd learn more about his log by using the K5KA/N6TV CBS log
> analysis
> > > > tool than using ChatGPT.
> > > >
> > > > - I suggest you ask Dick about his strategy, since he contested for
> many
> > > > years from S.Calif before recently moving to Oregon.
> > > >
> > > > 73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn at hornucopia.com)
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Clayton Nall" clayton.nall at gmail.com
> > > > To: "SCCC Reflector" sccc at contesting.com, "k5zd" k5zd at cqww.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2025 8:06:56 PM
> > > > Subject: [SCCC] Asking ChatGPT for CQWW advice
> > > >
> > > > I’m planning a serious entry in CQWW CW in the LP classic overlay
> > > > category
> > > > at the UCSB club station. I asked ChatGPT to give me strategy
> advice. I
> > > > also fed it W6TK’a top-scoring log in the category and asked it to
> > > > summarize.
> > > >
> > > > Is this advice on point or yet another ChatGPT hallucination?
> > > >
> > > > https://chatgpt.com/share/691a9ab6-6f24-8003-9ab1-048fe22577b2
> > > >
> > > > Clayton Nall
> > > > http://www.nallresearch.com
> > > > Cell: (617) 850-2062
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