From dickb@akorn.net Thu Jun 1 00:58:02 2000 From: dickb@akorn.net (Dick Bentley) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 19:58:02 -0400 Subject: [SECC] SECC meeting at Atlanta Hamfest? References: <200005310137.e4V1bjl07803@firewall.home> <39354297.6DE3@worldnet.att.net> <004301bfcb10$3c1cd120$0d0210ac@gary> Message-ID: <3935A70A.E7AF9E00@akorn.net> OK, Gary _ I will nail N1ND down tomorrow nite and get him to show up at the Shoot-out at the Jim Miller Corral! 73 DIck -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From k4no@ix.netcom.com Thu Jun 1 02:58:15 2000 From: k4no@ix.netcom.com (Gregory and LeAnn Richard) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 20:58:15 -0500 Subject: [SECC] Stuff for sale Message-ID: <00a401bfcb6c$db7a6000$7887aec7@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01BFCB42.F1192420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cleaning out some stuff that I'm not going to use. 1. TIC RIng Rotor 2. Tailtwister rotor (have 2) 3. Johnson KW Matchbox 4. 500 D insulators (new in the box) have about 100 5. 1000' roll of 3/16" EHS guy wire. Sell as a roll only. Stuff will go on Eham site on Monday.. Greg K4NO ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01BFCB42.F1192420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Cleaning out some stuff that I'm not going to=20 use.

1. TIC RIng Rotor

2. Tailtwister rotor (have = 2)

3. Johnson KW Matchbox

4. 500 D insulators (new in the = box) have=20 about 100

5. 1000' roll of 3/16" EHS guy = wire. Sell as=20 a roll only.

Stuff will go on Eham site on Monday..

Greg K4NO

------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01BFCB42.F1192420-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From n4uk@mindspring.com Thu Jun 1 00:21:58 2000 From: n4uk@mindspring.com (Ken Ramirez) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 23:21:58 -0000 Subject: [SECC] N4UK joins the 21st Century w.ith some station goodies Message-ID: <200006010325.XAA09811@granger.mail.mindspring.net> Hi all, Hope everyone who went enjoyed Dayton. Nice to see Jay, K4OGG; Neal, K4EA; Steve, K4RF and others at the big one.I was worn out after the first day. I can't take much of non -stop ham radio talk. It's radio for breakfast, lunch, contest dinner, then hospitality suites where they talk even more radio! Three days of that and I'm ready to go home BIG TIME! Thank goodness for wine, women and song! I managed to find everything I yearned for. One of the goodies I bought at Dayton was a band output detector for use with 12vdc relays. Unfortunately all of my external relays require 28vdc. Thank goodness for Radio shack and their little blue 12vdc relays and project boxes. I whipped together a driver board for 5 bands and can now experience the pleasure of instant band change/low power with the FT1000MP. Next step is to figure out a way to autotune the AL1200! Now I have more of an incentive to enter an NAQP or two since I don't have to worry about being on the wrong antenna. I also found a couple of those green ,military surplus, connectors. These were 24 pin jobs with a chassis mount and the matching male plug. I was having lots of problems with the Cinch Jones 8 pin connectors on my rotor disconnect cables. The alum- inum corrosion was causing the meters to not display direction or keeping the brake from engaging/disengaging. I replaced 3 pairs of these connectors with a single surplus connector and now have instant, reliable quick disconnects of 3 rotor/control boxes for the HF antennas. The best part of this was that the chassis mount fit PERFECTLY inside an outdoor, waterproof electrical a/c outlet box with single outlet cover. Lift the cover and insert connector and voila, 3 rotors at your disposal and instant disconnect for lightning protection. Also bought an International Radio 250hz cw filter for the MP. I really needed this! 500 hz is sometimes a little too wide in a contest..... I have converted the backup rig (TS850) into the second station along with the Henry 3KD Classic amp. I hope to use this as an RTTY station when I get the 599zx RTTY software up and working. I need to find a cheap Windows 95 install CD and I'll be RYing on 20 meters.My radio computers are still on Windows 3.1 and DOS.... Looking forward to the IARU contest where I hope to do a single op effort. I'll be able to test the new 3/3 15m antennas. Will sure be nice to get my mind off of work! 73 Guys and hope you all have a good time in Atlanta! Ken N4UK -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From jpryor@arches.uga.edu Thu Jun 1 16:19:46 2000 From: jpryor@arches.uga.edu (Jay Pryor) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 11:19:46 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Field Day Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000601111946.00a0c3ac@imap.arches.uga.edu> Hello group! If you are interested in joining a Field Day operation, we will be glad to welcome you to the second annual Field Day on Lake Lanier. All of last year's ops will tell you we had a great time, and we also put up a respectable score. This will technically be a SEDXC effort using the club call W4NT, but everyone is welcome. You can check out pictures and last year's QSO summary (2,035 QSOs) at: http://sedxc.contesting.com/ Dick, K2UFT has generously offered the use of his generator again this year, and Jim, AD4J, has said he's in, so I'm hoping Jim will set up the SSB station. I'll set up a CW station. Leigh, N8LM has said he'll be with us also. The QTH is off of Brown's Bridge Road (GA 369), west of Gainesville. More detailed directions will be posted later. Plan to join us for a few hours or for the duration. 73, - Jay/K4OGG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From gary@noblepub.com Thu Jun 1 18:06:37 2000 From: gary@noblepub.com (Gary Breed) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:06:37 -0400 Subject: [SECC] New Member - NN4K References: <96.4ebe89d.2654120b@aol.com> Message-ID: <000c01bfcbeb$bf55fd60$0d0210ac@gary> Vaden McDonald, NN4K is the newest member of SECC. He was first licensed as K4HEP (1954) and also was W0ULJ in the past. Present QTH is 1868 Trotters Ln, Stone Mountain, GA. Vaden say he likes both SSB and CW DX contests (CQWW and ARRL), plus Field Day, Sweepstakes some of the special event operations. "I'll participate as much as I can and submit my scores for the SECC in the future." Welcome to the club, Vaden! 73, Gary K9AY -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From gary@noblepub.com Thu Jun 1 22:10:06 2000 From: gary@noblepub.com (Gary Breed) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 17:10:06 -0400 Subject: [SECC] New Member - NN4K References: <96.4ebe89d.2654120b@aol.com> <000c01bfcbeb$bf55fd60$0d0210ac@gary> <3936DE41.329B@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: <004a01bfcc0d$c32fe3c0$0d0210ac@gary> Yes, I forgot to include it -- vadenmac@aol.com Gary -------- > Hi Gary: Does Vaden have an e-mail address? 73, John, K4BAI. > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From stuparits@hawkaccess.com Sun Jun 4 16:50:17 2000 From: stuparits@hawkaccess.com (Jeff Stuparits) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 11:50:17 -0400 Subject: [SECC] For Sale: Icom 706 MK II Message-ID: <01BFCE1B.116F2A00.stuparits@hawkaccess.com> Icom 706 MK II. Good condition and works perfectly. Includes DSP, original box, mic. $725 Jeff W4DD, email or 770 888-2310 -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From dickb@akorn.net Sun Jun 4 18:17:36 2000 From: dickb@akorn.net (Dick Bentley) Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 13:17:36 -0400 Subject: [SECC] GA QSO PARTY Certificate Message-ID: <393A8F30.FDFB896@akorn.net> Good to see those who could make it to the Contesting Forum and SECC meeting at the Atlanta Ham Festival. Attached is a scan of the beautiful certificate Gere, KT4ZB, created for the winners of the 1999 GQP - for those of you who won a category, its even more impressive in person. 73 Dick, K2UFT -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From rglisson@america.net Sun Jun 4 19:38:19 2000 From: rglisson@america.net (Rick Glisson) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 14:38:19 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Need pan adapter board for Kenwood 220 Monitor Message-ID: <009501bfce54$1e83ebc0$0100000a@Smrynacable.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01BFCE32.870C9A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have the oportunity to purchase a Kenwood Station Monitor 220. It does = not have the pan adapter board I want to be able to check the signals = over a range of freqs? Anybody want to sell one or know where I could = get one? Thanks all, glad to see a lot of you at the hamfest Saturday. -73 Rick N4XMX ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01BFCE32.870C9A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have the oportunity to purchase a Kenwood = Station=20 Monitor 220. It does not have the pan adapter board I want to be able to = check=20 the signals over a range of freqs? Anybody want to sell one or know = where I=20 could get one?

Thanks all, glad to see a lot of you at the = hamfest=20 Saturday.

-73 Rick N4XMX

------=_NextPart_000_008F_01BFCE32.870C9A60-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From Mike.Baker@turner.com Tue Jun 6 05:33:36 2000 From: Mike.Baker@turner.com (Baker, Mike) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 00:33:36 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Braves Fans... Message-ID: For those SECC Braves fans interested in the MLB Draft being held Mon - Tue, The Braves selected 3 Georgia players in the first 10 rounds. 1st round - Adam Wainwright, pitcher Glynn Academy, St Simons Island, Ga; 2nd round - Bryan Digby, pitcher McIntosh High, Peachtree City, Ga; 3rd round Blaine Boyer, pitcher Walton High, Marietta, Ga. First 20 rounds complete with the remaining 30 rounds on Tue. Mike - KA6SAR Michael Baker Area Scouting Supervisor Atlanta Braves Baseball Club (714) 546-6807 mike.baker@turner.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From NQ4I@compuserve.com Tue Jun 6 11:29:22 2000 From: NQ4I@compuserve.com (Rick Dougherty) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 06:29:22 -0400 Subject: [SECC] another note from nq4i Message-ID: <200006060629_MC2-A7A6-FC3D@compuserve.com> Hello all..well the dust is settling from the wpx cw test and it appears that our Multi-Multi RECORD score from last year is intact...havenot had a score to come that close...our record was given for approx 14 millions points...so maybe it will stand a year or so...now to focus on the cqww ssb ands cw...have been doing some inside work ...keying cables, mic cables etc to make things more standardized and compatabile...one of the Alpha 78's is heading for the shop...it has an intermittent on transmitt....begin working today on the 2 element 80...replacing some hardware etc....hoping the bands will start bouncing back...10m is just ugh......are we experiencing the peak and heading down??? will be planning on doing the arrl cw in Feb and then in Mar the wpxssb...will not do the arrl ssb anytime soon...also would like to do the wpx cw in May...picked up 2 dozen pl-259's at the Atlanta hamfest...what a bust it was...if you missed it, tyou didn't miss much...it was the worst hamfest I have been to in over 35 years...the Atlanta radio club has sure dropped the ball on this one...how abt some note from the rest of you, and what you are doing/planning on doing this summer??? de Rick -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From NQ4I@compuserve.com Tue Jun 6 12:54:46 2000 From: NQ4I@compuserve.com (Rick Dougherty) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 07:54:46 -0400 Subject: [SECC] another word Message-ID: <200006060755_MC2-A7A4-457C@compuserve.com> Hello again...forgot that those of you I have promised the settings for the FT-1000mp for the enhanced transmit audio...here it is...menu item 4-4 Off, menu 5-9 2.4 khz, menu 7-7 ssb-t 100-3100,menu 8-9 tx usb carrier -.200, and menu 8-9 proc. usb carrier +.130 Try them I think you will like them, and they are really red hot with a Heil HC-4 element...I am ordering filters in a month or so...I am adding 2 crystal 400 hz Inrad's on cw and 2 crystal 2100 hz for ssb...will take the collins Mech 500 hz filter and put it in the sub-rx...anybody need 1000-mp filters they will be 20% less in a group order...de Rick -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From aa4lr@radio.org Tue Jun 6 15:01:05 2000 From: aa4lr@radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:01:05 -0400 Subject: [SECC] another note from nq4i Message-ID: <1000506100106.KAA22761@gate.iterated.com> On 6/6/00 6:29 AM, Rick Dougherty at NQ4I@compuserve.com wrote: >how abt some note from the >rest of you, and what you are doing/planning on doing this summer??? I'm planning to put up my modest 45' tower and A3S. HB25B brackets arrived Saturday (although UPS managed to lose the box of tower bolts attached to the brackets). Next step is to get the building permit, temporarily mount a bracket and start digging the hole. But I have to finish a honey-do project first! Isn't that always the case? Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@radio.org Quote: "Boot, you transistorized tormentor! Boot!" -- Archibald Asparagus, VeggieTales -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From aa4nn@juno.com Wed Jun 7 01:03:54 2000 From: aa4nn@juno.com (Joe L Blackwell) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 20:03:54 -0400 Subject: [SECC] another note from nq4i Message-ID: <20000606.200359.-129143.4.AA4NN@juno.com> de Joe, aa4nn > how abt some note from the > rest of you, and what you are doing/planning on doing this summer??? > Crank down the 89-ft US Tower, check antennas, connectors & switch boxes. Repair 30m dipole. Attach a yard arm to support the 160m Inv L wire cage which is now suspended from a catenary line. Will bury radials for the Inv L at its new location as I re-work the yard for new grass. Also looking at a rotatable flag. Re-align the 160m Inv V. Speaking of US Tower. Mine is now six years old. The cable and pulleys look unharmed and the only rust I can see is on the base support brackets. The aging process might begin to accelerate. So I have a question... When fully extended a tower section telescopes into the next lower section by about four feet. What could be wrong if I made up some lengths of chain to support the tower sections. The support mechanism would consist of a turnbuckle with some chain off each end and then a hook at the ends of each chain. The idea is to put a hook into the top of an outside section leg and hook the other end into the bottom of the inside, telescoped section's leg. Tightening the turnbuckle to the point of barely relaxing the crank-up cable should support the tower ok. Heavy duty equipment and a support mechanism for each of the three tower legs at the four telescoped sections. Twelve chains in all. The TX-489 weighs 1590 pounds. Supporting the entire tower would call for a support chain to bear 530 pounds. The bottom section alone probably weighs about 400 pounds, making the bottom section chains bear about 400 pounds each, supporting the remaining 1190 pounds. That ain't much. Or is it ? Am I crazy to even be thinking about this ? Having seen my tower wobble back and forth in gusty winds calls for a support chain to bear more than the equally distributed weight. A US Tower rep sez he never heard of this idea, but he is going to call me back with the weight of each tower section. Any thoughts ? Would this make a crank-up tower climbable? 73, de Joe Blackwell, aa4nn -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From wb4sqq@yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 17:27:13 2000 From: wb4sqq@yahoo.com (Gary McConville) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 09:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SECC] "Jim... It's a miracle!" Message-ID: <20000606162713.29354.qmail@web6007.mail.yahoo.com> Went over to my neighbor to inform him that a few of his tree branches protrude over my house into the new quad and need to be cut down. Barely know the guy, but he offered to pay half. He also wanted to know more about ham radio and wants to help work the next contest.... Got back pix from the antenna party but haven't scanned them in yet to a web site. Soon... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From AB4RU@aol.com Tue Jun 6 18:54:20 2000 From: AB4RU@aol.com (AB4RU@aol.com) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:54:20 EDT Subject: [SECC] another note from nq4i Message-ID: <99.5c517b3.266e94cc@aol.com> >how abt some note from the >rest of you, and what you are doing/planning on doing this summer??? Hi, I am still trying to determine if I want to expand my antennas, do nothing, or sell the entire station off to the highest bidder. Selling maybe the prefered choice and check in at N4RJ's for Ham therapy. If I commit myself to the farm I can get a better rate. Ron W4WA -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From k4sb@mindspring.com Tue Jun 6 21:12:24 2000 From: k4sb@mindspring.com (Ed Sleight) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 20:12:24 +0000 Subject: [SECC]Towers References: <20000606.200359.-129143.4.AA4NN@juno.com> Message-ID: <393D5B28.F6F40FE9@mindspring.com> Joe L Blackwell wrote: > > Any thoughts ? Would this make a crank-up tower climbable? > > 73, de Joe Blackwell, aa4nn > Just one. NEVER NEVER EVER CLIMB A CRANKUP!!!!!!!!!! And secondly, you are thinking about a modification to a structure which could have a catastropic effect if one of the main cables broke. Crank it down when necessary, and stick around for a few more years. 73 Ed -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From w4an@contesting.com Tue Jun 6 21:13:48 2000 From: w4an@contesting.com (Bill Fisher - W4AN) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 16:13:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SECC]Towers In-Reply-To: <393D5B28.F6F40FE9@mindspring.com> Message-ID: And just one more thought.... NEVER EVER climb a crank up tower. Ever. 73 On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Ed Sleight wrote: > > > Joe L Blackwell wrote: > > > > > Any thoughts ? Would this make a crank-up tower climbable? > > > > 73, de Joe Blackwell, aa4nn > > > Just one. NEVER NEVER EVER CLIMB A CRANKUP!!!!!!!!!! > > And secondly, you are thinking about a modification to a structure which > could have a catastropic effect if one of the main cables broke. > > Crank it down when necessary, and stick around for a few more years. > > 73 > Ed > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html > Submissions: secc@contesting.com > Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com > Search: http://www.contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From wb4sqq@yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 21:47:35 2000 From: wb4sqq@yahoo.com (Gary McConville) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SECC] The Farm Message-ID: <20000606204735.25381.qmail@web6004.mail.yahoo.com> If you buy the farm, we can setup some 160M beverage antennas... --- AB4RU@aol.com wrote: > >how abt some note from the > >rest of you, and what you are doing/planning on doing this summer??? > > Hi, > I am still trying to determine if I want to expand my antennas, do > nothing, or sell the entire station off to the highest bidder. > Selling maybe the prefered choice and check in at N4RJ's for Ham > therapy. If I commit myself to the farm I can get a better rate. > > Ron W4WA > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html > Submissions: secc@contesting.com > Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com > Search: http://www.contesting.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From gary@noblepub.com Tue Jun 6 21:36:34 2000 From: gary@noblepub.com (Gary Breed) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 16:36:34 -0400 Subject: [SECC] another note from nq4i References: <99.5c517b3.266e94cc@aol.com> Message-ID: <002301bfcff6$e7fd39e0$0d0210ac@gary> It's time for balance and harmony in your life, Ron! Don't try to do too much... ...like me -- My summer/fall plans only include some masonry work that two previous owners of the house never finished, picking a color for some painters to apply to the house, hiring a HVAC contractor to replace a corroded crawl space unit, building a deck, putting in some new fence... ...and putting up a second tower, burying and pulling my cables through plastic pipe, replacing the HAM-3 with a T2X, putting the second element on the 40M antenna, making two radios work together, and running 240 VAC to the shack so I can try a class above LP or QRP. I might even build a new operating bench to replace the old wooden desk I've been using since 1971! 73, Gary K9AY ---------- > >how abt some note from the > >rest of you, and what you are doing/planning on doing this summer??? > ---------- > Hi, > I am still trying to determine if I want to expand my antennas, do nothing, or sell the entire station off to the highest bidder. Selling maybe the prefered choice and check in at N4RJ's for Ham therapy. If I commit myself to the farm I can get a better rate. > > Ron W4WA > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From jpryor@arches.uga.edu Thu Jun 8 15:16:30 2000 From: jpryor@arches.uga.edu (Jay Pryor) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 10:16:30 -0400 Subject: [SECC] UBN Phone SS Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000608101630.00a3657c@imap.arches.uga.edu> Folks, The UBN report for the '99 Phone SS is available. SECC had 20 logs submitted. Send a request to: N6TR@arrl.org In the subject line put: CALLSIGN 1999 SS Phone report request I had 426 raw QSOs, 417 valid, and an error rate of 2.1%. Six exchange errors, two busted calls, and one bad cross check. On the other end, there were 8 busts in other logs for a rate of 1.9%. At least I kept the first-ever 79 sections. FYI. - Jay/K4OGG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From jpryor@arches.uga.edu Fri Jun 9 13:23:53 2000 From: jpryor@arches.uga.edu (Jay Pryor) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:23:53 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Field Day Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000609082353.00a31df8@imap.arches.uga.edu> Hi Group! One week from today we will be going to the shores of beautiful Lake Lanier and setting up for Field Day! Plans are for two stations, one on CW and one on phone. Everyone is invited -- family members are welcome. We'll try to beat last year's score of 2,035 QSOs and 6318 points. Dick, K2UFT is supplying the generator and Jim, AD4J is supplying a radio. The QTH is an air conditioned cabin. We will set the generator outside and run power lines inside and operate in cool, bug-free comfort. We welcome anyone who wants to show up -- for an hour or for the duration. Here are directions from Atlanta: Go north on GA 400 Exit on 306 and go right to the 4-way Stop (at Hammond's Crossing) At the 4-way stop go right on 369 Follow 369 across Brown's Bridge 2.2 miles past Brown's Bridge (large metal bridge), go left on Cherokee Trail Look for mailbox 4261 on left. Turn down the road at the mailbox and follow the asphalt drive (don't stop at the big new house on the left -- that's not us!) Go through the metal gate when the asphalt runs out and keep going until you reach the cabin. The road circles around the cabin, so if you make it to the gate, you will have no problem. Phone number at the cabin: (770) 532-0547. Let me know if you have questions. Send an e-mail, or the work phone is (706) 542-8145; and the home phone is (770) 396-6660. Pictures from last year: http://sedxc.contesting.com/ 73, - Jay/K4OGG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From jpryor@arches.uga.edu Fri Jun 9 17:56:12 2000 From: jpryor@arches.uga.edu (Jay Pryor) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 12:56:12 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Field Day In-Reply-To: <1000509122136.MAA22985@gate.iterated.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000609125612.00a2290c@imap.arches.uga.edu> You're exactly right! Oh well, I never was very good at math. Bill is correct in that setup for Field Day will be TWO weeks from today, not one. Sorry. - Jay/K4OGG At 12:21 PM 6/9/2000 -0400, Bill Coleman AA4LR wrote: >On 6/9/00 8:23 AM, Jay Pryor at jpryor@arches.uga.edu wrote: > >>One week from today we will be going to the shores of beautiful Lake Lanier >>and setting up for Field Day! > >huh? I thought you couldn't do any setup for field day except 24 hours >prior to the start. > >Isn't Field Day June 24-25? A week from June 9 is June 16, a week too >early for Field Day. > > > > >Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@radio.org >Quote: "Boot, you transistorized tormentor! Boot!" > -- Archibald Asparagus, VeggieTales > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From K4BAI@worldnet.att.net Fri Jun 9 23:02:31 2000 From: K4BAI@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 15:02:31 -0700 Subject: [SECC] Contests this weekend Message-ID: <39416977.2916@worldnet.att.net> Hello all: In addition to a RTTY contest this weekend, there are several contests that you might be interested in playing around in or at least in helping make QSOs for those who are in the contests. Conditions may be very poor and no doubt will be weird on HF due to the recent events on the sun. It MAY, however, give us some unusual opportunities for VHF QSOs. 1. The World Wide South America CW Contest runs from 00Z Sat until 16Z Sun. If the aurora is bad, South America may be the only thing we can work on HF. Sent RST + NA (Continent). You can work everyone, even your own country. Multipliers are the same as WPX contests. 2. Asia-Pacific Sprint Contest. Saturday, 11-13Z. 15 and 20 meters only. Suggested frequencies: 21350-21380, 14250-14280. Downside is a limit to 150 watts. With poor conditions, it may not be possible to work Asia with 150 watts, but I have done so in prior contests. The big stations and good operators like these sprints. The station who solicits the QSO (such as by CQing) must QSY 6 khz before calling again. I have never had anyone call me, but you can CQ after the station you worked leaves the frequency. Work only Asia/Pacific stations. Exchange: RS + serial number beginning with 001. Mults: Same as WPX (only once, not once per band). 3. Top of Europe Contesters World Wide Grid SSB Contest. A lot of contesters have expressed a desire to have a contest that includes the 4 digit Grid Locator as a part of the exchange. Here is the SSB world wide version. Sat 12Z to Sun 12Z. Exchange: RS + GridField/GridSquare. Example: 59 EM72 for K4BAI. You may QSO any station, including your own country and grid square, once per band. Suggested frequencies: 3600-50; 3790-3800; 7040-45 (listen only for us); 14100-14125 (that leaves us out); 21100-21175 (that leaves us out); 28200-28300 (same). Of course, if DX stations want Grid Squares in the US, they will have to work or listen in our bands. 4. Portugal Day Contest. Saturday 00 to 24Z. SSB. Send 59 + 001 etc. Work any station. Mults for CT districts and DXCC countries. 5. ARRL June VHF Contest. 18Z Sat to 03Z Monday. Exchange: Grid Square. (Signal report is optional). 50 mhz and up. Grid squares per band are mults. Hope everyone has a nice weekend and at least a few interesting QSOs. 73, John, K4BAI. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From thompson@mindspring.com Fri Jun 9 21:11:53 2000 From: thompson@mindspring.com (thompson@mindspring.com) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:11:53 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Comments requested. Message-ID: <004401bfd24e$f7108400$0b1045cf@default> I need some comments from club members and those who are subscribed to the SECC reflector on the CQ 160 Contests. 1. Looks like the Cabrillo format will dominate the logs next year (almost 40% were this year) and I am looking at conversion programs for the old format (mainly NA and CT). I also need software to check Cabrillo logs. Any ideas? 2. There is controversy on two topics this year (again). The first is what is the cutoff for uniques (unverified Q's)? Don and I defined this as 7% in 1990 before considering DQ. We did not want to crimp those who spend the time, effort, and $$$ to build a great station but if you knew some of the logs you would know that there are few that push the envelope. Unlike say 10 meters anyone who gets on 160 to work a club member usually gets carried away and works several more stations. Thus uniques even in ON4UN's or WB9Z logs are less than 2%. The second is a growing practice (GW3YDX says he has this on tape) to have someone hold a freq while they work mults across the bands. What he found was pre-arranged holding of a freq not just giving up a freq like has happened to me in the past. (and to almost everyone at one time or another). GW3YDX recommends DQ or at least reclassifying the stations to M/O. What do you think? Agree, disagree, or have another view! 3. We have been looking at several exchange possibilities for DX. The two that have been recommended include power (like the ARRL DX) or Grid square. K1MEM and K2EEK liked age (as in the JA contest with 00 (zero zero) being the default. Ideas? To have a consistent check this is a requirement for DX logs as all reports are 599/59 (except for KH6CC and K8MR..hi). Thanks for your time and have a great summer! 73 Dave K4JRB -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From aa4lr@radio.org Fri Jun 9 21:49:43 2000 From: aa4lr@radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:49:43 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Comments requested. Message-ID: <1000509164942.QAA12905@gate.iterated.com> On 6/9/00 4:11 PM, David Thompson at thompson@mindspring.com wrote: >I need some comments from club members and those who are subscribed to the >SECC reflector on the CQ 160 Contests. > >2. There is controversy on two topics this year (again). The first is >what is the cutoff for uniques (unverified Q's)? > Don and I defined this as 7% in 1990 before considering DQ. > Thus uniques even in ON4UN's or WB9Z logs >are less than 2%. In my opinion, there is NO percentage of uniques that should force a DQ. Any disqualification has to be a carefully executed decision by a human making the judgement. You can't just say "gosh, he had a bunch of uniques" and DQ him automatically -- there has to be further evidence that something is afoot. Uniques are not an indicator of foul play, just the inability of log checking to determine if a contact is valid or not. > The second is a growing practice (GW3YDX says he has this on tape) >to have someone hold a freq while they work mults across > the bands. What he found was pre-arranged holding of a freq not >just giving up a freq like has happened to me in the past. (and to >almost everyone at one time or another). GW3YDX recommends DQ or at least >reclassifying the stations to M/O. While such a practice is certainly reprehensible and unethical, in reality it probably does not convey any significant advantage. The frequency being "held" may in fact be one of the crummiest on the band. >3. We have been looking at several exchange possibilities for DX. The >two that have been recommended include power (like the ARRL DX) or Grid >square. K1MEM and K2EEK liked age (as in the JA contest with 00 (zero >zero) being the default. Ideas? Power is good. People know what their power level is. They don't always know what their grid square is. An alternative is a sequence number (like WPX). Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@radio.org Quote: "Boot, you transistorized tormentor! Boot!" -- Archibald Asparagus, VeggieTales -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From k4sb@mindspring.com Sat Jun 10 05:06:48 2000 From: k4sb@mindspring.com (Ed Sleight) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 04:06:48 +0000 Subject: [SECC] Comments requested. References: <1000509164942.QAA12905@gate.iterated.com> Message-ID: <3941BED8.D97E64BA@mindspring.com> Bill Coleman AA4LR wrote: > In my opinion, there is NO percentage of uniques that should force a DQ. > Any disqualification has to be a carefully executed decision by a human > making the judgement. You can't just say "gosh, he had a bunch of > uniques" and DQ him automatically -- there has to be further evidence > that something is afoot. > > just the inability of log > checking to determine if a contact is valid or not. Have to disagree with Bill here. The log checking process has absolutely nothing to do with uniques. If a guy makes a few contacts, but doesn't send in a log, there's not much you can do. If the call appears in more than 1 log, it isn't "unique". What's to prevent someone from inserting a call every 3 or 4 contacts? Software to do it, child's play. > > The second is a growing practice (GW3YDX says he has this on tape) > >to have someone hold a freq while they work mults across > > the bands. What he found was pre-arranged holding of a freq not > >just giving up a freq like has happened to me in the past. (and to > >almost everyone at one time or another). GW3YDX recommends DQ or at least > >reclassifying the stations to M/O. > > While such a practice is certainly reprehensible and unethical, in > reality it probably does not convey any significant advantage. The > frequency being "held" may in fact be one of the crummiest on the band. > They don't always know what their grid square is. It is a simple matter of either looking up your own call at probably 20 different WEB sites, or if you have a Radio CDROM, from there. And, if the practice is "unethical". it violates the rules by default. 73 Ed -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From gary@noblepub.com Sat Jun 10 20:42:26 2000 From: gary@noblepub.com (Gary Breed) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:42:26 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Comments requested. References: <004401bfd24e$f7108400$0b1045cf@default> Message-ID: <002801bfd314$01b4dc60$0d0210ac@gary> Dave > I need some comments from club members and those who are subscribed to the > SECC reflector on the CQ 160 Contests. > > 1. Looks like the Cabrillo format will dominate the logs next year (almost 40% were this year) and I am looking at conversion programs for the old format (mainly NA and CT). I also need software to check Cabrillo logs. Any ideas? Contact N6TR and N5KO, who were involved in the development of Cabrillo and assisted the ARRL computer log checking efforts. > 2. There is controversy on two topics this year (again). The first is what is the cutoff for uniques (unverified Q's)? Don and I defined this as 7% in 1990 before considering DQ. We did not want to crimp those who spend the time, effort, and $$$ to build a great station but if you knew some of the logs you would know that there are few that push the envelope. Unlike say 10 meters anyone who gets on 160 to work a club member usually gets carried away and works several more stations. Thus uniques even in ON4UN's or WB9Z logs are less than 2%. I think 7% is a generous figure, 5% is probably OK. > The second is a growing practice (GW3YDX says he has this on tape) to have someone hold a freq while they work mults across the bands. What he found was pre-arranged holding of a freq not just giving up a freq like has happened to me in the past. (and to almost everyone at one time or another). GW3YDX recommends DQ or at least reclassifying the stations to M/O. If "proof" is indisputable, DQ is appropriate, but proof is going to be hard to obtain without designated observers. Re: 160 -- 2-radio/single band is completely feasible with the right antenna isolation and filtering, so one can make QSOs at different frequencies in a very short time period, "ping-pong" between two frequencies without actually transmitting simultaneously on both. > 3. We have been looking at several exchange possibilities for DX. The two that have been recommended include power (like the ARRL DX) or Grid square. K1MEM and K2EEK liked age (as in the JA contest with 00 (zero zero) being the default. Ideas? To have a consistent check this is a requirement for DX logs as all reports are 599/59 (except for KH6CC and K8MR..hi). I'm not sure a change is required. Almost any exchange has a degree of predictability. It will only take a couple years for SuperCheckPartial to include Grid Square for active contest stations. Serial number is kinda "ho-hum" and power is only a bit more useful. If you want to get adventurous, use exchange that was received from the previous QSO -- ham radio "Post Office." It's one way to be random! The 160 contests could use a real exchange for DX -- 599 is pretty lame by itself and we already know the DXCC country. As it is, all we statesiders need to do is copy the callsign and verify that we are the station being called. > > Thanks for your time and have a great summer! > > 73 Dave K4JRB > Thanks for asking us for input, Dave! 73, Gary K9AY > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html > Submissions: secc@contesting.com > Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com > Search: http://www.contesting.com > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From K4BAI@worldnet.att.net Mon Jun 12 17:25:06 2000 From: K4BAI@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:25:06 -0700 Subject: [SECC] Ga QSO Party July 22-23 Message-ID: <39450EE2.33E3@worldnet.att.net> Bob: On April 10, I e-mailed you that the dates for the 2000 GQP were July 22-23 and asked that the contest calendar for CQ Contest be corrected accordingly. You replied that it would be taken care of. The July/August issue of CQ Contest arrived today showing the date on the cover of GQP to be July 29, which would be a direct conflict with the very popular IOTA contest and showing no contest on July 22-23. 73, John, K4BAI. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From aa4lr@radio.org Mon Jun 12 17:09:56 2000 From: aa4lr@radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:09:56 -0400 Subject: [SECC] UBN Phone SS Message-ID: <1000512120956.MAA08640@gate.iterated.com> On 6/8/00 10:16 AM, Jay Pryor at jpryor@arches.uga.edu wrote: >I had 426 raw QSOs, 417 valid, and an error rate of 2.1%. Six exchange >errors, two busted calls, and one bad cross check. On the other end, there >were 8 busts in other logs for a rate of 1.9%. My results weren't quite as good. I had 249 raw QSOs, with 1 marked Dup. I busted 9 QSOs, giving me an error rate of 3.6%. I had four busted calls. Check them out and see if you notice a pattern: W3WT is a busted call. The correct call is K3WT. W0OU is a busted call. The correct call is K0OU. K9LZ is a busted call. The correct call is W9LZ. KB0S is a busted call. The correct call is AB0S. Hmm. This is a good reason for having UBN reports. Now that I know I have a problem, I'll strive to fix it. The exchange busts weren't my "fault": QSO #78 W4MYA : M 58 Va should be U 58 Va QSO #88 N2QT : A 70 Va should be U 70 Va QSO #171 W5GAD : B 56 La should be M 56 La I was using a piece of paper to keep track of categories other than A, B, Q. Obviously, I messed up transcribing one of them, and two others I simply forgot to write down. I lost two more in the cross check. One was NIL, the other was a bad number. But the most interesting thing involves busts found in other logs, calls have been deleted to protect the guilty: AA5LR is a busted call. The correct call is AA4LR. AA4LA is a busted call. The correct call is AA4LR. QSO #968 AA4LR : A 35 Ga should be A 75 Ga QSO #211 AA4LR : A 35 Ga should be A 75 Ga QSO #300 AA4LR : A 35 Ga should be A 75 Ga QSO #707 AA4LR : A 65 Ga should be A 75 Ga QSO #1 AA4LR : A 77 Ga should be A 75 Ga QSO #516 AA4LR : A 94 Ga should be A 75 Ga QSO #54 AA4LR : M 75 Ga should be A 75 Ga QSO #379: Received QSO# 277 should be 237 AA4LR Number busts found in other logs = 10 (4.2%) Six, a full 60% of the busts came from the check. NONE from the section. One each from the number and precedence. And a couple of busted calls. I wonder what I can do to better communicate the check. I always say "Seven-Five Georgia". Obviously that's not working. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@radio.org Quote: "Boot, you transistorized tormentor! Boot!" -- Archibald Asparagus, VeggieTales -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From aa4lr@radio.org Mon Jun 12 17:26:04 2000 From: aa4lr@radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:26:04 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Comments requested. Message-ID: <1000512122604.MAA09925@gate.iterated.com> On 6/10/00 12:06 AM, Ed Sleight at k4sb@mindspring.com wrote: >Bill Coleman AA4LR wrote: >> In my opinion, there is NO percentage of uniques that should force a DQ. >> Any disqualification has to be a carefully executed decision by a human >> making the judgement. You can't just say "gosh, he had a bunch of >> uniques" and DQ him automatically -- there has to be further evidence >> that something is afoot. > >Have to disagree with Bill here. The log checking process has absolutely >nothing to do with uniques. If a guy makes a few contacts, but doesn't >send in a log, there's not much you can do. If the call appears in more >than 1 log, it isn't "unique". What's to prevent someone from inserting >a call every 3 or 4 contacts? Software to do it, child's play. It is certainly possible for someone to convince non-contesters to give them a contact. In fact, my Sweepstakes SSB log from 1999, with just 249 contacts had two uniques because I did just that. I think it is wrong to penalise someone just because they have a knack for getting the exchange out of a non-contester. So, they end up with a bunch of uniques -- there's absolutely ZERO proof that the uniques are not ligitimate contacts. Of course, it is certainly possible for someone to read the callbook and insert bogus contacts. It's also possible for people to run an amplifier and claim QRP, run excessive power, watch the packetcluster and claim single op, rubberize their clock, listen during off-time, etc. Logs with lots of uniques should be more closely scrutinized. Maybe a few well-placed e-mails to some of the unique callsign owners would help to determine the truthfulness in the reporting. But DQing someone just because they have a lot of uniques isn't right. Further verification is needed. >> They don't always know what their grid square is. > >It is a simple matter of either looking up your own call at probably 20 >different WEB sites, or if you have a Radio CDROM, from there. Agreed. But, you have to know your lat/long to get your grid. How many people know that? Sure, if they have a bit of determination, they can figure it out. But it's hard to have someone call in and try to figure it out on the fly. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@radio.org Quote: "Boot, you transistorized tormentor! Boot!" -- Archibald Asparagus, VeggieTales -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From K4BAI@worldnet.att.net Mon Jun 12 21:18:20 2000 From: K4BAI@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:18:20 -0700 Subject: [SECC] [Fwd: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Publicity - Propagation and Call Signs for Local Club Meetings] Message-ID: <3945458C.5BF1@worldnet.att.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------367250E27F05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all: Here is a message about the possibility of working S5 stations during the WRTC in Slovenia held at the time of the IARU RS contest next month. It is particularly designed for local clubs and new HF operators, but it could be helpful to any of us. Remember that hidden among the S5##? calls will be one operated by K4UEE/N6IG and one by K4BAI/K6LL. 73, John, K4BAI. --------------367250E27F05 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from contesting.com ([216.1.128.73]) by mtiwgwc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000612151206.KHIK26682.mtiwgwc22.worldnet.att.net@contesting.com>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:12:06 +0000 Received: from dayton.akorn.net (dayton.akorn.net [216.1.128.73]) by contesting.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA28999; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:12:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dayton.akorn.net (TLB v0.10a (1.23 tibbs 1997/01/09 00:29:32)); Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:09:40 +0000 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Barry Merrill" To: "Contest Reflector" Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Publicity - Propagation and Call Signs for Local Club Meetings Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:04:51 -0500 Message-ID: <000601bfd47f$8eff62e0$c20eb1d0@concentric.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-cq-contest@contesting.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Info: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/cq-contest X-Sponsor: W4AN, KM3T, N5KO & AD1C Could I suggest that contestors print and take this table of propagation and callsigns to their local (non-contest) club meeting this month and especially the first week of July, to get all of these new HF hams on the air that weekend to provide QSOs for the WRTC contestors: Have your signals heard in Slovenia, Europe, July 8-9, during WRTC! Get on the air Sat-Sun July 8-9, and be a Good Neighbor, by making QSOs in the World Radiosport Team Championship. Fifty-three stations, all in Slovenia, but operated by two-ham teams from around the world, will be operating for 24 hours, and they will be looking for you on 80-10 meters on CW and SSB, so please work them all! Try these bands/times first: Sunrise in S5: 03:26UTC Sunset 18:48UTC G = Good P = Possible GMT EDT W1 W0 W5 W6 July 8, 2000 40 20 15 10 40 20 15 10 40 20 15 10 40 20 15 10 1200Z Sat 8- 9am P P 1300Z Sat 9-10am P P P 1400Z Sat 10-11am P P P P P P P P 1500Z Sat 11-12am P P P P G P G P 1600Z Sat 12-13pm G P G P G P G P 1700Z Sat 13-14pm G P G P G P G P 1800Z Sat 14-15pm P G P G P G P G P 1900Z Sat 15-16pm P G P G P G P G P 2000Z Sat 16-17pm P G P P G P G P G P 2100Z Sat 17-18pm P G P G G G 2200Z Sat 18-19pm G G G G P G G 2300Z Sat 19-20pm G G G G P G G 2400Z Sat 20-21pm P G G G G P G G 0100Z Sat 21-22pm G G G P G G P G G P G 0200Z Sat 22-23pm G G G G G G G G G G G 0300Z Sat 23-00pm G G G G G G G G G P G G 0400Z Sun 00-01am P G P P P P P G G P G G 0500Z Sun 01-02am P G P P P P P G G G G 0600Z Sun 02-03am P G P P P P P G G P P 0700Z Sun 03-04am P P P P P P 0800Z Sun 04-05am P P P P P 0900Z Sun 05-06am P 1000Z Sun 06-07am 1100Z Sun 07-08am WRTC Contest ends at 1200Z on July 9, 2000. WRTC rules: Work each station on each mode (CW and SSB) on each band. Your exchange is signal report and your ITU Zone, which is: 06 (WA,OR,CA,NV,ID, and MT UT AZ that is west of 110W Longitude. 07 (ND,SD,NE,WY,CO,NM,TX,OK,KS,IA,MN and UT AZ East of 110W, and MI,MT,IL,MO,AK,TN,MS,LA,WS that is west of 90W) 08 (IN,AL,GA,FL,VA,KY,NC,SC,WV,MD,DE,OH,PA,NJ,NY,ME,CT,RI,MA,NH,VT, and MI,IL,MO,AK,MS,TN,LA,WS that is east of 90W). CALL SIGNS: These are the call signs of the WRTC stations to work: S511E S521H S531R S541F S561C S571W S581I S512T S522R S532N S542B S562P S572L S582A but you can also QSO S513A S523W S533G S543C S563X S573O S583D any station anywhere S514U S524G S534J S544Z S564Q S574V S584M who is in the IARU S516M S526O S536P S546Q S566Z S576K S586U contest that is held S517W S527K S537L S547B S567F S577V S587N concurrent with WRTC S518N S528D S538F S548X S568Y S578R S588S S519I S529A S539D S549L (QSLs to S59L). More info at WRTC2000 homepage: http://wrtc2000.bit.si/ Propagation forecast by S59AA Text/format/blame to W5GN@mxg.com Merrilly yours, Barry Merrill, W5GN w5gn@mxg.com Merrill Consultants Dallas, TEXAS www.mxg.com 214 351 1966 -- CQ-Contest on WWW: http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/ Administrative requests: cq-contest-REQUEST@contesting.com --------------367250E27F05-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From k4sb@mindspring.com Mon Jun 12 18:46:04 2000 From: k4sb@mindspring.com (Ed Sleight) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:46:04 +0000 Subject: [SECC] Comments requested. References: <1000512122604.MAA09925@gate.iterated.com> Message-ID: <394521DC.1AE2DE28@mindspring.com> I think Bill and I are on the same track, just saying it differently. But, again, any WEB page which will display your call will also give your Lat/Long. I'm certainly not that enthusiastic about grid squares, but the thought of 599KW just turns me off. Plus, I can and do decipher the Buck database, and it's simple enough to just refer to it by call/grid square. So, that would allow for a little cheating. As I think I originally said, I would go for age. Hopefully, people know how old they are. And again, agreeing with Bill, I think the Log checking is getting out of hand. Seems it's sort of like a contest for the log checkers. Next thing you know, people will be submitting qsl cards for the unique which could upset the score apple cart. 73 Ed -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From w4nti@mindspring.com Mon Jun 12 19:07:10 2000 From: w4nti@mindspring.com (w4nti@mindspring.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:07:10 -0500 Subject: [SECC] Comments requested. References: <1000512122604.MAA09925@gate.iterated.com> <394521DC.1AE2DE28@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <001401bfd499$0b940cc0$f18faec7@com> I may be mistaken here but.....all these comments of cheating and how to cheat are really turning me off. I enjoy contesting for the pure thrill of it...thats it. Am I missing something here or has it turned into another example of coruption in our society? Dan/W4NTI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Sleight" To: "secc" Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [SECC] Comments requested. > I think Bill and I are on the same track, just saying it differently. > But, again, any WEB page which will display your call will also give > your Lat/Long. I'm certainly not that enthusiastic about grid squares, > but the thought of 599KW just turns me off. Plus, I can and do decipher > the Buck database, and it's simple enough to just refer to it by > call/grid square. So, that would allow for a little cheating. > > As I think I originally said, I would go for age. Hopefully, people know > how old they are. > > And again, agreeing with Bill, I think the Log checking is getting out > of hand. Seems it's sort of like a contest for the log checkers. Next > thing you know, people will be submitting qsl cards for the unique which > could upset the score apple cart. > > 73 > Ed > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html > Submissions: secc@contesting.com > Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com > Search: http://www.contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From jwolfe@bellsouth.net Mon Jun 12 19:12:13 2000 From: jwolfe@bellsouth.net (Johnny Wolfe) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:12:13 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Comments requested. In-Reply-To: <001401bfd499$0b940cc0$f18faec7@com> Message-ID: <000901bfd499$bbcb2240$4a0898cd@bims.bellsouth.net> DITTO, Dan, It was contesting that got me into Ham Radio in the first place... Johnny, K4TW -----Original Message----- From: owner-secc@contesting.com [mailto:owner-secc@contesting.com]On Behalf Of w4nti@mindspring.com Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 14:07 To: secc Subject: Re: [SECC] Comments requested. I may be mistaken here but.....all these comments of cheating and how to cheat are really turning me off. I enjoy contesting for the pure thrill of it...thats it. Am I missing something here or has it turned into another example of coruption in our society? Dan/W4NTI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Sleight" To: "secc" Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [SECC] Comments requested. > I think Bill and I are on the same track, just saying it differently. > But, again, any WEB page which will display your call will also give > your Lat/Long. I'm certainly not that enthusiastic about grid squares, > but the thought of 599KW just turns me off. Plus, I can and do decipher > the Buck database, and it's simple enough to just refer to it by > call/grid square. So, that would allow for a little cheating. > > As I think I originally said, I would go for age. Hopefully, people know > how old they are. > > And again, agreeing with Bill, I think the Log checking is getting out > of hand. Seems it's sort of like a contest for the log checkers. Next > thing you know, people will be submitting qsl cards for the unique which > could upset the score apple cart. > > 73 > Ed > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html > Submissions: secc@contesting.com > Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com > Search: http://www.contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From aa4lr@radio.org Mon Jun 12 19:45:37 2000 From: aa4lr@radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:45:37 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Comments requested. Message-ID: <1000512144536.OAA21407@gate.iterated.com> On 6/12/00 2:07 PM, w4nti@mindspring.com at w4nti@mindspring.com wrote: >I may be mistaken here but.....all these comments of cheating and how to >cheat are really turning me off. I enjoy contesting for the pure thrill of >it...thats it. Am I missing something here or has it turned into another >example of coruption in our society? Dan, My point wasn't to encourage people to cheat, but to show that contesting, by its nature, relies on a certain level of honor amoung the participants. To the degree that log checkers can uncover cheating, I think they should disqualify those participants. My whole objection in this area was the suggestion that a certain percentage of unique calls in a log submission connotes cheating. I disagree. It is quite possible that a log with a large percentage of unique calls is perfectly legitimate. Therefore, it would be unconscionable to disqualify someone solely on the basis of lots of uniques. I think disqualification should not be done by a computer. It should only come by careful consideration by a human judge. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@radio.org Quote: "Boot, you transistorized tormentor! Boot!" -- Archibald Asparagus, VeggieTales -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From chapoton@mindspring.com Mon Jun 12 20:01:29 2000 From: chapoton@mindspring.com (Henry Chapoton) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:01:29 -0400 Subject: Fw: [SECC] Comments requested. Message-ID: <003101bfd4a0$9e276120$b0328ad1@piiitower> Bill wrote: I think disqualification should not be done by a computer. It should only come by careful consideration by a human judge. Computers don't disqualify logs. The log checkers do. Those guys are savvy enough about contesting to make a reasoned judgement. Perhaps Dave could chime in - how many logs does he see with 5-7% uniques? I bet there aren't that many, except perhaps from UN where 1 big local submits the only log with a lot of little guns in it that can't work anyone else? greg na8v/4 sent this to Bill, meant to copy the reflector: ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry Chapoton To: Bill Coleman AA4LR Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [SECC] Comments requested. > AA4LR wrote: > > It is certainly possible for someone to convince non-contesters to give > them a contact. In fact, my Sweepstakes SSB log from 1999, with just 249 > contacts had two uniques because I did just that. > > I think it is wrong to penalise someone just because they have a knack > for getting the exchange out of a non-contester. So, they end up with a > bunch of uniques -- there's absolutely ZERO proof that the uniques are > not ligitimate contacts. > > I reply: > > Right, you had 1% uniques. Most uniques are busted calls, that's what UBN+1 > is all about. As Dave said, most of the guys that make 1 contact will make > a couple more- generally with the big signals/high scorers/most likely to > submit log types. To get to 5% or even 7% unique takes some doing, and > generally something is wrong. I know a couple WRTC types that have been > DQ'd - all it did was make them better ops in the future. How many logs get > DQ'd? Not many. How many get contacts removed? lots of them - but those > are for confirmed errors. I don't see where the problem is - you're making > a mountain out of a molehill. > > greg > na8v/4 > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From w4nti@mindspring.com Tue Jun 13 15:19:28 2000 From: w4nti@mindspring.com (w4nti@mindspring.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:19:28 -0500 Subject: [SECC] Comments requested. References: <1000512144536.OAA21407@gate.iterated.com> Message-ID: <007901bfd542$63d31940$3392aec7@com> I didn't mean to point the finger at anyone in particular. I meant it as a general statement on the state of affairs today. See you ALL in the next contest. Dan/W4NTI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Coleman AA4LR" To: ; "secc" Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [SECC] Comments requested. > On 6/12/00 2:07 PM, w4nti@mindspring.com at w4nti@mindspring.com wrote: > > >I may be mistaken here but.....all these comments of cheating and how to > >cheat are really turning me off. I enjoy contesting for the pure thrill of > >it...thats it. Am I missing something here or has it turned into another > >example of coruption in our society? > > Dan, > > My point wasn't to encourage people to cheat, but to show that > contesting, by its nature, relies on a certain level of honor amoung the > participants. > > To the degree that log checkers can uncover cheating, I think they should > disqualify those participants. > > My whole objection in this area was the suggestion that a certain > percentage of unique calls in a log submission connotes cheating. I > disagree. It is quite possible that a log with a large percentage of > unique calls is perfectly legitimate. Therefore, it would be > unconscionable to disqualify someone solely on the basis of lots of > uniques. > > I think disqualification should not be done by a computer. It should only > come by careful consideration by a human judge. > > > > Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@radio.org > Quote: "Boot, you transistorized tormentor! Boot!" > -- Archibald Asparagus, VeggieTales > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From K4BAI@worldnet.att.net Tue Jun 13 18:55:40 2000 From: K4BAI@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:55:40 -0700 Subject: Fw: [SECC] Comments requested. References: <003101bfd4a0$9e276120$b0328ad1@piiitower> Message-ID: <3946759C.7588@worldnet.att.net> I agree with Greg that the CQ contest checkers profess to only penalize and disqualify entrants in contests by a reasoned, human thought process. This is the way it should always be. However, ARRL is attempting to make the logchecking and penalizing completely automatic and computer done. This is directly from N6TR. They have tried to develop a log checking system that will do it all by computer and they do not purport to review with human eyes before penalties are imposed. I do hope that they would review the log by some knowledgeable person before any actual disqualification. But their attitude is that if the computer throws out a good QSO and adds penalty deductions for it, on average they will have not thrown out one that was bad, so it evens out and the human judgment need not be involved. And that is correct most of the time (but not always). 73, John, K4BAI. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From w4an@contesting.com Tue Jun 13 16:23:47 2000 From: w4an@contesting.com (Bill Fisher - W4AN) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SECC] W4AN IARU Message-ID: Looks like I will be at W7RM for IARU on the only mode that counts. Hope to see you all then. I visited Rush Drake's station on Sunday. I'm obviously getting old in this game... A huge station like that in front of me and I'm thinking "Yep, here's another pretty big station", and that's about it. I remember when I first saw K4VX/0... It more or less shaped my life for the last 20 years. Maybe I'll drive out to Mount Ranier and have the same experience again? Probably not. :) 73 Fisher/7 PS... The AN mountain house is coming along. They have it mostly framed. Basement (shack) will be finished off with 10' ceilings for us folks that hate low basement ceilings. :) -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From AB4RU@aol.com Wed Jun 14 14:06:00 2000 From: AB4RU@aol.com (AB4RU@aol.com) Date: Wed Jun 14 13:06:00 2000 Subject: Fw: [SECC] Comments requested. Message-ID: <200006141706.NAA10682@contesting.com> Hi All, Sounds like the log checking is getting too complicated. I am certainly not in favor of throwing out any good qso's just because I was the only one to work a 3B2 on 160 meters in a contest. I think if the qso is thrown out the person has sending in the log should have the right to protest the QSO being removed and if he can offer proof of the qso it should be returned to the log with additional point credit. Ron -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From K4BAI@worldnet.att.net Thu Jun 15 05:43:57 2000 From: K4BAI@worldnet.att.net (John Laney) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:43:57 -0400 Subject: Fw: [SECC] Comments requested. References: <200006141706.NAA10682@contesting.com> Message-ID: <39485F0D.FD847E66@worldnet.att.com> I don't think anyone is throwing out uniques as such. The question was originally what % of uniques is acceptable. Apparently some log checking programs would disqualify a log with more than a certain % of uniques. Probably the cut off would be above any reasonable expectation. Otherwise, uniques are thrown out only if the checker or computer determines that it is a miscopied call or if it is an impossible call (not in some data base believed to be complete). 73, John, K4BAI. AB4RU@aol.com wrote: > > Hi All, > Sounds like the log checking is getting too complicated. I am certainly not in favor of throwing out any good qso's just because I was the only one to work a 3B2 on 160 meters in a contest. I think if the qso is thrown out the person has sending in the log should have the right to protest the QSO being removed and if he can offer proof of the qso it should be returned to the log with additional point credit. > > Ron > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html > Submissions: secc@contesting.com > Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com > Search: http://www.contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From thompson@mindspring.com Thu Jun 15 03:04:11 2000 From: thompson@mindspring.com (thompson@mindspring.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:04:11 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Comments requested. References: <1000512122604.MAA09925@gate.iterated.com> Message-ID: <018b01bfd66e$03d06980$1b1045cf@default> I agree that uniques are part of normal contesting. The average uniques in the CQ 160 is less than 1% for scores over 500 QSOs. Then along comes a LZ9 and a UQ2 with hundreds of uniques that even closer stations did not work. RA3AUU thinks this could be rag chewers not even in the contest. I was able to attract many stations not in the contest in my ARRL SS efforts. In those days uniques was not even in the contesters vocab. I suspect that just like today some who got on to work one station made several more contacts. The list of possible uniques from high scorers usually all show up in several logs.....thus the rate of uniques on 160 is very low. The probem log checkers run into is our software can ferret out uniques but proving these contacts to be bad is hard. If a station has 500+ (out of 1100 Q's) uniques and they are all in one or two countries...what is the log checker to think? Thus Don set the 7% rule as a generous test (rather than 5% as several suggested). I found one stateside station to have probably listed out the call book to fill out his log. He trapped himself when he listed novices and techs (several confirmed by mail) that have no access to 160. 73 Dave K4JRB -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From aa4lr@radio.org Thu Jun 15 14:38:41 2000 From: aa4lr@radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:38:41 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Comments requested. Message-ID: <1000515093842.JAA00453@gate.iterated.com> On 6/14/00 10:04 PM, David Thompson at thompson@mindspring.com wrote: >The probem log checkers run into is our software can ferret out uniques but >proving these contacts to be bad is hard. If a station has 500+ (out of >1100 Q's) uniques and they are all in one or two countries...what is the log >checker to think? That certainly warrants further investigation. I would take a dozen or so contacts and try to confirm them via e-mail. Even if you get only 2 or 3 answers, it should easily determine the quality of those unique contacts. >Thus Don set the 7% rule as a generous test (rather than >5% as several suggested). I found one stateside station to have probably >listed out the call book to fill out his log. He trapped himself when he >listed novices and techs (several confirmed by mail) that have no access to >160. And that's how the process should work. Naturally, there's a chance that a few uniques may simply be undetected busted calls. But if there's a pattern of impossible contacts, then the uniques can be judged as cheating. And that's my point in this entire deal: human judgement. I think it's OK for logs with 5% or more uniques to be scrutinized for possible QSO fabrication. Send the e-mails, see what kind of response you get. But I don't think it is right for a log to be disqualified solely on the basis of lots of uniques. There has to be some other indicator to force that judgement. Then again, I'm not a log checker or contest adjudicator. Who am I to say how someone should or should not adjudicate logs? I can only say what I think would be fair. The decision is certainly yours. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@radio.org Quote: "Boot, you transistorized tormentor! Boot!" -- Archibald Asparagus, VeggieTales -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From w4nti@mindspring.com Thu Jun 15 16:07:44 2000 From: w4nti@mindspring.com (w4nti@mindspring.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:07:44 -0500 Subject: [SECC] Comments requested. References: <1000512122604.MAA09925@gate.iterated.com> <018b01bfd66e$03d06980$1b1045cf@default> Message-ID: <003001bfd6db$76686c00$0998aec7@com> There it is, another example of my favorite quote; "You just cain't fix stupid" Dan/W4NTI ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "secc" Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [SECC] Comments requested. > I agree that uniques are part of normal contesting. The average uniques in > the CQ 160 is less than 1% for scores over 500 QSOs. > Then along comes a LZ9 and a UQ2 with hundreds of uniques that even closer > stations did not work. RA3AUU thinks this could be rag chewers not even in > the contest. I was able to attract many stations not in the contest in my > ARRL SS efforts. In those days uniques was not even in the contesters > vocab. I suspect that just like today some who got on to work one station > made several more contacts. The list of possible uniques from high scorers > usually all show up in several logs.....thus the rate of uniques on 160 is > very low. > > The probem log checkers run into is our software can ferret out uniques but > proving these contacts to be bad is hard. If a station has 500+ (out of > 1100 Q's) uniques and they are all in one or two countries...what is the log > checker to think? Thus Don set the 7% rule as a generous test (rather than > 5% as several suggested). I found one stateside station to have probably > listed out the call book to fill out his log. He trapped himself when he > listed novices and techs (several confirmed by mail) that have no access to > 160. > > 73 Dave K4JRB > > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html > Submissions: secc@contesting.com > Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com > Search: http://www.contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From k4ea@contesting.com Fri Jun 16 15:18:12 2000 From: k4ea@contesting.com (Neal Sulmeyer) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:18:12 -0400 Subject: [SECC] FW: CERTIFICATE FER 1999 GQP - MAIL FROM PA3ARM IN THE NETHERLANDS Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: van Enckevort, Harry [mailto:Harry.van.Enckevort@nld.xerox.com] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 6:12 AM To: 'k4ea@contesting.com' Subject: CERTIFICATE FER 1999 GQP - MAIL FROM PA3ARM IN THE NETHERLANDS Hi Neal, Just want to tell that that I am eagerly looking forward to participate in your 2000 QP after having participated in the 1999 one wid so much pleasure . (it was mi first QP any time) On checking the 2000 Web Site I saw to mi surprise that I am certificate winner fer 1999. I understand the certificates were produced by Jerald KT4ZB who in Buckmasters data base is listed without E-mail address. Question : how can I obtain the certificate or is it sent automatically to me ? Hpe we meet each other in the 2000 party. thanks fer a reply 73 de Harry PA3ARM -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From thompson@mindspring.com Fri Jun 16 15:56:40 2000 From: thompson@mindspring.com (thompson@mindspring.com) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:56:40 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Possible club call Message-ID: <000701bfd7a3$1522b360$0c1145cf@default> There was some discussion about a club call for SECC some time ago. There is a call that will be available soon that might fill the bill. Don't know if getting the SK's XYL to ask the FCC to give the club the call still works under the new order. Dave K4JRB -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From k4sb@mindspring.com Fri Jun 16 20:51:30 2000 From: k4sb@mindspring.com (Ed Sleight) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:51:30 +0000 Subject: [SECC] Possible club call References: <000701bfd7a3$1522b360$0c1145cf@default> Message-ID: <394A8542.269F2066@mindspring.com> thompson@mindspring.com wrote: > There was some discussion about a club call for SECC some time ago. There > is a call that will be available > soon that might fill the bill. Don't know if getting the SK's XYL to ask > the FCC to give the club the call still works > under the new order. > > Dave K4JRB It still applies, although it is expressed as family, not as a specific individual. Lokk at the FAQs on Vanity calls and it mentions it. BTW, I'm not real sure that in this case, you have to wait the 2 years, BUT, you DO have to have an existing club call. Incidentally, the FCC now maintains that they take all the requests for a particular call on an entire day, and then randomly pick the winner. Will see what I can find. 73 Ed 73 Ed -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From dickb@akorn.net Sat Jun 17 02:19:42 2000 From: dickb@akorn.net (Dick Bentley) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:19:42 -0400 Subject: [SECC] GQP Certificate Message-ID: <394AD22D.66EC5D29@akorn.net> Harry - your certificate will be sent to you. Congratulations and hope to work you again this year. Last year , depending upon when we worked, I was either driving the truck or operating as K4BAI. 73 Dick K2UFT -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From k4ea@contesting.com Tue Jun 20 06:23:10 2000 From: k4ea@contesting.com (Neal Sulmeyer) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 01:23:10 -0400 Subject: [SECC] FW: GA QSO Party Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Fred L Crawford [mailto:k5cwr@juno.com] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 10:31 PM To: k4ea@contesting.com Subject: GA QSO Party Although I thought I enjoyed last year's contest....more mobiles and seemed like a lot more interest and fun.....I don't plan to participate this year. Why? I never did receive the results from last year....... 73 fred k5cwr ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From dickb@akorn.net Tue Jun 20 13:04:17 2000 From: dickb@akorn.net (Dick Bentley) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:04:17 -0400 Subject: [SECC] 1999 GA QSO Party Message-ID: <394F5DC1.FFE7DFAC@akorn.net> Fred: Sorry your copy of the results did not arrive. The official results can be found at: http://secc.contesting.com/GQPResults99.txt You were a certificate winner and that should reach you shortly. Hope you'll reconsider. 73 Dick K2UFT -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From ku8e1@yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 19:41:10 2000 From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 11:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SECC] GQP Message-ID: <20000620184110.5476.qmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Guys, The family and I are planning another trip to the Atlanta area to visit the relatives the last week of July. Plan on leaving Ohio on Friday the 21st so I can have some fun as a rover in the GQP during the weekend. The plan is to start out in Roswell and do a bunch of the counties in Northern GA. Is there anyone else planning to do any of those counties ??? If so I can adjust my route. Have a email out to AA4GA to see if he wants to join me. If that falls through I would be open to joining up with someone who might want to team up as a /R. Jeff KU8E __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From gary@noblepub.com Tue Jun 20 19:08:27 2000 From: gary@noblepub.com (Gary Breed) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:08:27 -0400 Subject: [SECC] CW filters Message-ID: <000501bfdae2$88ad8340$0f0210ac@gary> Hi guys, Just a note about a recent project: I put 300 Hz CW filters in my ICOM 765s -- Rockwell-Collins mechanical filters, not the FL-53A. With the stock 500 Hz filters, the '765 has end-to-end selectivity of about 400 Hz. With the new filter, the bandwidth is 260 Hz. I can not detect any ringing or other effects beyond what a typical narrow crystal filter would have. The doubly-good news: 1. It's cheaper than ICOM or INRAD! For a quantity of two, the filters were $88 each, tax and shipping included. And the price goes down some more with larger quantities. Sure beats $135 or $150+ each. 2. It's easy! The impedance of the mechanical filters is identical to the FL-53A, so no matching or other electronic work was needed. I think most 455 kHz crystal filters for other radios will be about the same -- 1500-2000 ohms impedance. These things are tiny, about 1-5/8 x 5/8 x 1/4 inch plus pins. I made an adapter with a scrap of PC board to plug into the filter socket. Couldn't be easier. For more info, you can check out their Web site: http://www.collins.rockwell.com/otherbusinesses/collins-filters/ Click on "low cost series" for details on the type I used. Ordering is direct from Rockwell, prepaid with a bank check. I will be happy to coordinate a group purchase if there is any interest (there's already one on the list). Let me know. 73, Gary K9AY -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From dickb@akorn.net Thu Jun 22 04:15:02 2000 From: dickb@akorn.net (Dick Bentley) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 23:15:02 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Certificate Message-ID: <395184B5.E86CB3CA@akorn.net> --------------F79B3AB8CB382EE6D69E8350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fred: See quote below from Jere, our printer. You should see your certificate pretty soon. 73 Dick, K2UFT Excerpt of note from KT4ZB to K4BAI: Hey! thanks for the note - all the certificates are printed and I'm addressing envelopes right now so most everyone should have their certificates by the end of the week. This is really turning into radio week because of field day this weekend. Some of our regular workers are out of town so I'm trying to pick up the loose ends on that too. I'll make sure that Fred's certificate is in tomorrow's mail. 73, Jere --------------F79B3AB8CB382EE6D69E8350 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fred: See quote below from Jere, our printer. You should see your certificate pretty soon. 73 Dick, K2UFT

Excerpt of note from KT4ZB to K4BAI:

Hey! thanks for the note - all the certificates are printed and I'm
addressing envelopes right now so most everyone should have their
certificates by the end of the week. This is really turning into radio week
because of field day this weekend. Some of our regular workers are out of
town so I'm trying to pick up the loose ends on that too. I'll make sure
that Fred's certificate is in tomorrow's mail.

73, Jere --------------F79B3AB8CB382EE6D69E8350-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From jpryor@arches.uga.edu Thu Jun 22 20:28:47 2000 From: jpryor@arches.uga.edu (Jay Pryor) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:28:47 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Field Day Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000622152847.00a37900@imap.arches.uga.edu> One more reminder: All operators and visitors are welcome for this year's Field Day. If you find you have some extra time Saturday, or Sunday until 2 p.m., come and see us. Phone at the FD site: (770) 532-0547 >From Atlanta: Go north on GA 400 Exit on 306 and go right to the 4-way Stop (at Hammond's crossroads) At the 4-way stop go right on 369 Follow 369 across Brown's Bridge 2.2 miles past Brown's Bridge (large metal bridge), go left on Cherokee Trail Look for mailbox 4261 on left. Note that the 4261 is a bit difficult to read on the mailbox. Turn down the road at the mailbox and follow the asphalt drive (don't stop at the big new house on the left -- that's not us!) Go through the metal gate when the asphalt ends and keep going until you reach the cabin. Note that the red and white cabin at the metal gate is not us. Keep going on the dirt drive. The road circles around the cabin, so if you make it to the gate, you will have no problem. 73, - Jay/K4OGG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From aa4nn@juno.com Fri Jun 23 04:46:39 2000 From: aa4nn@juno.com (Joe L Blackwell) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:46:39 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Field Day Message-ID: <20000622.235527.-803447.10.AA4NN@juno.com> Hello gang, The Carolina CW Ops (KG4EBP Field Day bunch) will be running two stations from Kings Mountain State Park, near Gastonia, NC, using callsign AA4NN. Hope to give and get lots of Qs. 73, de Joe aa4nn Ten-Tec only, CW only. eeetet ee -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From wb4sqq@yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 23:17:28 2000 From: wb4sqq@yahoo.com (Gary McConville) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SECC] Prospective Ham Message-ID: <20000622221728.792.qmail@web6009.mail.yahoo.com> A Prospective ham from work wants to participate in the closest Field Day station to his home in Stone Mountain. Any help guys??? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From k4uj@mindspring.com Sat Jun 24 02:23:04 2000 From: k4uj@mindspring.com (Paul Pescitelli) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:23:04 -0400 Subject: [SECC] For Sale Message-ID: <4.3.2.20000623212117.00bd5490@mindspring.com> It is time to move.. Zachary is no longer a baby, and we are thinking about having a second child.. This place is way too small for 4 of us...So we have placed a contract on a new house in Suwanee and I won't be taking the radio stuff... So here is the list.. Yaesu FT 1000MP (with 500hz collins filter) $ 2,000.00 KT34XA - 6 Element 10-15-20Meter Yagi $ 300.00 Astron RS-35A Power Supply $ 75.00 Astron RS-35M Power Supply with Meters $100.00 Mosley S401 40M Dipole $ 50.00 EZ-Way 60 foot Tilt Over - Crank Up $ 600.00 Yaesu G-800SDX Rotator $ 175.00 MFJ-259 Antenna Analyzer $ 150.00 MFJ-432 Voice Keyer $ 50.00 Vectronics PM-30 Directional RF Wattmeter $ 25.00 Cushcraft A449-11S 70cm 11 Element 440Mhz Yagi $ 60.00 2M/440 Vertical $ 50.00 And of course if you know anyone in the market for a nice starter home, I can make them a hell of a deal.. No covenants here! 73, Paul -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From wb4sqq@yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 03:30:21 2000 From: wb4sqq@yahoo.com (Gary McConville) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SECC] One less "dah-dah-dih-dah" Message-ID: <20000624023021.23533.qmail@web6004.mail.yahoo.com> My new call is WB4SQ (was WB4SQQ)- official today! as in "We Build 4 Sided Quads" A good Field Day to all... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From W4OC@aol.com Mon Jun 26 13:23:37 2000 From: W4OC@aol.com (W4OC@aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:23:37 EDT Subject: [SECC] MARAC RESULTS Message-ID: --part1_c8.6acb017.2688a549_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_c8.6acb017.2688a549_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (rly-zb03.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.3]) by air-zb01.mail.aol.com (v74.17) with ESMTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:07:50 -0400 Received: from contesting.com (dayton.akorn.net [216.1.128.73]) by rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (v74.17) with ESMTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:07:20 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by contesting.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14336; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200006251907.PAA14336@contesting.com> To: secc-approval@contesting.com From: owner-secc@contesting.com Subject: BOUNCE secc@contesting.com : Non-member submission from [w3dya@juno.com] X-Mailer: Unknown Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From w3dya@juno.com Sun Jun 25 19:35:02 2000 From: w3dya@juno.com (w3dya@juno.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:35:02 -0500 Subject: FINAL--MARAC CH CW CONTEST RESULTS, SOAP BOX, HISTORICAL WINNERS, 2001 RULES Message-ID: <20000625.135923.-4101617.5.W3DYA@juno.com> HI: NOT GQP, but lots of mobile stuff someone might be interested in seeing. Expect to be in GQP July 22/23 - GL 73 Norm W3DYA - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2000 MARAC (34TH) COUNTY HUNTERS CW CONTEST RESULTS CTYS --QSO TYPE-- QSO CTY TOTAL AWDS CALL ACTV ST FIX DX MOB TOTAL PTS MULT SCORE MOBILE STATIONS P W9MSE 74 TOT 818 44 374 1,236 6,648 292 1,941,216 *** W3DYA 47 TX 611 39 357 1,007 6,161 295 1,817,495 P KN4Y 50 TOT 726 105 271 1,123 5,316 292 1,552,272 W1NN 29 TOT 354 64 250 668 4,424 246 1,088,304 C KN4Y 35 SC 539 63 191 793 3,719 240 892,560 C W9MSE 42 MI 488 28 185 701 3,403 191 649,973 C VE2EM 15 NY 140 41 144 325 2,505 195 488,475 C W1NN 9 PA 178 30 136 344 2,368 154 364,672 KM4FO 35 TOT 225 10 123 358 2,120 126 267,120 C KN4Y 15 GA 186 42 81 309 1,611 111 178,821 C W9HB 9 IL 116 13 84 213 1,441 118 170,038 C W9MSE 16 IN 176 0 101 277 1,691 94 158,954 C W1NN 13 NJ 122 21 75 218 1,352 97 131,144 W9MSE 13 IL 128 11 74 213 1,293 83 107,319 KM4FO 14 IN 75 1 66 142 1,070 64 68,480 K2NJ 2 NJ 33 8 42 83 703 70 49,210 K4UK 14 TOT 45 9 45 99 765 57 43,605 C KM4FO 13 KY 93 4 28 125 533 61 32,513 K4UK 9 GA 32 0 35 67 557 50 27,850 C NS7B 5 UT 22 2 27 51 437 37 16,169 W1NN 3 NY 25 4 17 46 300 37 11,100 KM4FO 5 IL 38 5 17 60 318 32 10,176 C K0ZT 4 CO 22 0 17 39 277 29 8,033 C W9MSE 3 WI 26 5 14 45 261 25 6,525 C KM4FO 3 TN 19 0 12 31 199 23 4,577 C W1NN 1 CT 9 2 11 22 184 20 3,680 C W1NN 2 MD 15 5 8 28 160 16 2,560 C K4UK 2 VA 7 6 7 20 142 11 1,562 C W1NN 1 DE 5 2 3 10 60 8 480 K4UK 3 TN 6 3 3 12 66 6 396 Total 284 FIXED STATIONS P WC5D 1 TX 87 4 230 321 3,557 253 899,921 P WB2ABD 1 NY 74 7 222 303 3,439 252 866,628 C WB6IYS 1 CA 78 5 216 299 3,343 255 852,465 C AB7RW 1 WA 45 3 183 231 2,805 208 583,440 C WA3HAE 1 PA 94 8 132 234 2,114 202 427,028 C W4RKV 1 TN 32 3 153 188 2,342 180 421,560 W2EZ 1 NY 24 6 146 176 2,244 156 350,064 C K5IID 1 WV 78 12 80 170 1,338 149 199,362 C W0IZV 1 CO 18 3 69 90 1,068 85 90,780 C AA9KH 1 IL 59 2 41 102 684 94 64,296 C W8WVU 1 MI 57 5 40 102 682 87 59,334 C KR1B 1 MA 14 0 53 67 809 67 54,203 N1QY 1 MA 46 13 39 98 696 75 52,200 K7IOO 1 WA 16 2 55 73 851 53 45,103 C W0GXQ 1 MN 9 3 46 58 714 57 40,698 K0ZT 1 CO 2 0 46 48 692 49 33,908 P VA3RJ 0 ONT 5 0 45 50 680 49 33,320 C K4ADI 1 SC 23 0 38 61 593 56 33,208 C N3TG 1 VA 19 4 27 50 444 46 20,424 C K0OAL 1 NE 13 6 28 47 463 40 18,520 C K8CW 1 OH 3 39 22 64 528 24 12,672 K6CSL 1 CA 32 2 14 48 252 44 11,088 W7DRA 1 CA 34 0 10 44 184 44 8,096 KD8HB 1 OH 4 0 21 25 319 25 7,975 W4TYU 1 TN 14 0 17 31 269 28 7,532 W8YL 1 MI 2 2 16 20 252 18 4,536 C W3UT 1 MD 15 0 11 26 180 23 4,140 WA2MUA 1 NY 6 3 10 19 171 19 3,249 N6GL 1 CA 4 0 9 13 139 13 1,807 C N0WM 1 MO 4 0 9 13 139 12 1,668 WA3GYW 1 MD 8 2 6 16 108 14 1,512 WB7AIV 1 WA 3 1 6 10 98 9 882 W5NR 1 TX 1 0 5 6 76 6 456 W8PN 1 OH 0 0 2 2 30 2 60 KB9AMG 1 WI 0 0 2 2 30 2 60 Total 33 DX STATIONS P LY3BA LITH. 118 0 122 240 1,948 204 397,392 C DL3DD GERM. 28 0 66 95 1,018 93 94,674 C JA9CWJ JAPAN 7 0 9 16 142 16 2,272 P = PLAQUE, C = CERTIFICATE, *** CONTEST MANAGER VOLUNTARILY DECLINES AWARDS ------------------------------------------------------------------ CONTEST MANAGER COMMENTS: Since we had a few mobiles gain entry to the all time top ten list this year and four scores exceeded the one million points mark, it would appear the mobile effort was a sucess. Likewise, the fixed station effort produced some very nice scores, although none managed to make it to the top ten list. And there were many who joined us for the first time, and it's always a pleasure to welcome them. I want to thank Alan, K8CW, who received a bunch of logs and forwarded them promptly. By the way, I don't need an SASE for results; I'll send results via email or regular mail using my address file. In addition to mailing results, I'll also send this to the mail reflectors I can access and try to get them on the web page (countyhunter.com). I also appreciated the response to my request for logs, regardless of volume. The contest was very active and this is only reflected in the results if logs can be included. There was only one eyeball meeting reported during the contest (see W8WVU below), which is always a nice event! I know we feel it interferes with our contest effort, but we always seem to remember them long after the contest is history. I'm not suggesting we start an eyeball meeting during this contest since we're spread out all over the country, but we shouldn't pass up an opportunity - it's worth the interruption! Thanks to everyone who helped make this a fun and successful event; it's still the best contest for mobiles in the world! CU May 5/6/2001! 73, Norm, W3DYA --------------------------------------- 2000 MARAC (33RD) COUNTY HUNTERS CW CONTEST RESULTS - SOAPBOX KM4FO(Dwight): I really had a great time. Things started out bad on Friday night when I found that my 15M resonator would not resonate and my rig quit on 40M at abut 1:30Z. I put my old trusty Omni-D in the front floorboard Saturday and headed out again. Thanks to all the mobiles and fixed stations for a fun weekend. K0ZT(Jim): I did not get a lot of time to operate mobile, but it was fun as usual. However, I did keep trying to repeat everyone's RST back; some mobile habits are hard to break HI! Was looking for you on Saturday nite on 7 MHZ but never heard you. WB7AIV(Bob): Don't have a computer so am sending info on the CH contest. My pleasure to make a few contacts, had fun! Looking forward to next year's contest. K7IOO(Bill): Lots of fun, excellent mobile ops. Family severely limited (my) operating time. WA2MUA(John): I was on for less than two hours, so these numbers are only to add my call to the list of those who participated. W7DRA/6(Mike): For the past few years I have operated your CH Contest and have had a lot of fun! I love chasing a mobile across county lines, especially mobiles in Texas. Although I'm not a mobile operator, I am a loyal portable operator with my trusty modified HW16/VFO. I was operating at my sister's house in Marin County CA. I know you have eliminated the portable classification, but I would like to post a vote for somehow working a portable category into the rules operating at other than home county or state. In my hurry to catch the plane, I forgot my J38! I found a small vice, clamped it to a 2x4 saw horse, hooked a ground to it, connected the hot key wire to a 3 oz fish weight, and clanked the weight on the vice as a sort of manual key. Everybody slooowwweeedd down for me. Thanks again for a good contest. KB9AMG(Mark): Here is the detailed log info; I only made two QSO's. If I remember right, condx were not very good, solar flares, etc., wiped out the band. N3TG(Red): I always enjoy participating in this contest when my schedule permits. I was able to put in only a couple of hours, but it was worthwhile and I added about 17 new counties overall. W8PN(Hal): Unfortunately, my participation in the contest was minimal; I hope to plan my emergencies a little better next year. Keep up the good work with the contest; we sure could use more fixed station participation. Maybe Joyce (KD8HB) will get the contest bug since she has no more CH challenges. K5IID(Tom): Fun, but next year I'm gonna be serious! K4ADI(Frank): I had not planned to submit a log for so few QSO's, but here it is! W3UT(Ray): Thanks for your efforts! VA3RJ(Dave): Great contest again this year. Missed the first half of it due to other commitments. Hope to see everyone again next year! W8WVU(Al): Condx were very poor here doing the contest; however, your /M from Texas was always near 599. But KN4Y/M in SC and others could not be heard most of the time I did meet W9MSE/M in person. He was running Lenawee Co. in an antique mall parking lot and I drove over and met him about 10 pm about 10 miles from my home QTH. W5NR(Art): I had only one hour available, but W9MSE/M was going strong - as usual! Hope to be full time next year! AA9KH(Jay): Wow! What an excellent event. Really enjoyed my first participation during this year's evnt. Been working on the 20M CW netfairly often of late and enjoy it, also. But trying to keep up with even six or seven mobiles within the range of my ground mounted dummy load (vertical HI!) was quite interesting and challenging. Did not manage to spend as much time as I might have liked, but enjoyed it very much. W4RKV(Mitch): The CH CW Contest was a blast. I really enjoyed it this year. Propogation was very poor here Fri night and all day Sat, but Sun was pretty good. - worked Jeff (W9MSE/M) in IN and IL on 20M, even worked KM4FO in KY on 20M from my TN QTH. I only worked stations on 20 and 40; listened on 15 and 80 a few times, but heard nothing there. Mobiles I worked the most times: W9MSE-40, W1NN-25, KN4Y-24, W3DYA-23. K6CSL(Bert): I really enjoyed this contest, though the participation did not seem very dense, and some of my score was from snagging non-participant stations with general CQ's. Sun was pretty tought after my XYL and I both got sick with some kind of stomach flue, and I wasn't feeling too well. Contesting is quite a challenge for me as it is, due to my being disable with lung problems and being on oxygen 24 hours a day. DL3DD(Leo): In spite of any thunderstorms, strong local QRM at evening and worse condx on Sunday, I'm satisfied with the resuls this year. I never got a new county in contest last year, but got 7 new ones this year! KR1B(Bob): Great fun! Appreciate the boys who had to sacrifice mowing the lawn or painting the house to give out the mobile counties. I very much approve of separate CW and SSB contests and would like to see two MARAC CW Contests per year. I believe that the Roadrunner should give more coverage to upcoming MARAC CH Contests - I had to go to CQ magazine to find details. LY3BA(Gedas): It's a real pitty I could not operate full time this year. Many new counties, lot of fun! Thanks to all the mobiles for the outstanding effort. I have worked 22 different stations signing /M. I'm impatiently looking forward to the next year CH CW Contest. AB7RW(Phil): A big thank you to the mobiles. It was fun following you around the counties. K4UK/M(Stan): Sorry I wasn't able to put in more time, but we had visits to friends in Cartersville, GA; Fayetteville, NC; and Hixson, TN. Also I met with Bob Lowe, G0FRL, my English counterpart of the FISTS QSL Bureau in Atlanta. Bob made a few contacts as W4/G0FRL from my mobile in Fulton Co. Great contest thought; look forward to it again next year! WB2ABD(Paul): Mobiles changing bands made for a very enjoyable contest. All mobiles worked were very, very good operators. Great job! WB6IYS(Bill): Had a great time this year and even managed to finish off SC thanks to Ed (KN4Y/m). The score is a new high for me courtesy of those three mighty mobiles: W9MSE, KN4Y, and W3DYA. They accounted for 124 of my multipliers. I think posting the results on the chcontest reflector is a great idea. Each of us can put up our own, and you can publish the final results when you get it all figured out. WC5D(Van): We got our own weekend, we got sunspots, we got mobiles, we got a great contst in 2000! Doubled the number of mobile QSO's over 1999. Worked Jeff, W9MSE, adn Ed, KN4Y, the most. Norm, W3DYA gets my 40M award; can't work him much on intra-Texas skip. All three are truly dedicated, for for it, MARAC CW Contest Mobilers. W9MSE and KN4Y accounted for nearly half of my mobile QSO's. But that says loads about the number of other mobile operators out there running in 2000! NG0T, KM4FO, and W1NN each 10+ mobile QSO's also. Many thanks to all! Picked up two of my last ten for all CW from KN4Y in SC. At this rate, it appears I may work my last cty for all CW during the contest one of these years HI! This year was my #33 entry out of 34 CW contgests, with 24 in a row. Obviously I wouldn't miss it. CU in '01. JA9CWJ(Yoshi): I am excited about this contest. See you next time! KD8HB(Joyce): Good start for Nth time? Don't laugh! I should have been, and wish I had been, more acitve, but had other things to do! (You done good - now that you whipped Hal, W8PN, in Ohio, I suggest you practice up to attack Alan, K8CW, next year! NM) VE2EM/M(Andy): A great turn-out by the mobiles this year! My "Last call" from Delaware Co, NY, yielded a pile-up with 13 QSO's! W9HB(Harold): My first MARAC Contest and it was great! Washn't planning on operating more than a couple of hours, but it was fun, so rearranged schedule and was able to operate from several IL counties even though I had to spend some hours each morning at the "saltmine." Did not have someone to drive while I operated, so was limited to county hopping. It was a challenge to find a "high open operating location" away from noisy power lines and out of traffic flow. The TS450S and the Outbacker worked wll I feel and I had fun, so see you next year! Perhaps on both the Phone and CW weekends. W0GXQ(Jerry): I couldn't generate the same interest this year with the terrible band conditions. Hope things will be different next time! KN4Y/M(Ed): I live in FL and this year I tried something different. I gave my driver a SC map and said drive through as many counties as possible on Saturday and Sunday we will return through GA. We got lost many times, but ran a bunch of counties in both states. The best part was to give out some last counties. I ran 10, 15, 20 and 40 meters. 15 and 20 were the most productive, 10 meters was like Aunt Sophie - dead! The 15 points for mobile killed me in scoring; I concentrated on giving out counties to fixed and DX stations. The condx were OK, and I look towards next year's contest. Norm did a great job getting good WX scheduled. (I tried to explain to Ed his comments were for the results not the RR, but you know how these famous writers are? NM) K2NJ(Bill): Great contest, as usual. Problem arose when Gail told me to get the RV ready for the weekend... naively - I though she was saying to be "Let's pass out some counties in the CW contest." Actually she was saying, "He stupid! you forgot we promised to go camping with the 4H group... now get busy." So off to Monmouth Co. we went, and sorry to say - stayed the entire weekend. Then to add insult to injury, she made me socialize with the other members of the 4H Club... I only had time to sporadically run into the RV and operate. Next year... gee, where have I heard that before? WA3GYW(Francis): I really like county hunting and have capability to operate 40 through 15M QRP CW and 10M SSB AM and FM Mobile. I also operate 6M and 2M mobile, too. I have operated QRP CW mobile on 20M and 15M with my HW8 Xceiver I built. 73 to all county hunters! W1NN(Hal): I was not very well prepared for this year's contest. Nothing new there, I'm afraid. I returned from a business trip to Japan on Tuesday so I was still rather jet-lagged on Fri night. I decided that I should minimize my driving (Like Norm, I do all of the driving and operating by myself) so on Fri and Sat I stuck to counties close to my PA QTH that were familiar to me from the PQP. I had business in Wash DC on Mon morning so on Sun I drove back to my CT house to pack up and drove to DC during the final hours of the contest. This allowed me to hit a total of 29 counties in three call areas and six states (PA, NY, NJ, CT, MD and DE). I was hoping to hit VA for state seven and call area number four but the contest ended before I could get there! I missed about three hours of operating time during the middle of the day on Sun but I was able to put in a pretty full effort. It's an old story but condx didn't seem to favor the Northeast again this year. There were many times when I had no propagation to the three big county producers this year: W9MSE, W3DYA and KN4Y. Comparing a few of my state multipliers with Norm's, I found that Norm worked 35 MI counties versus only 16 for me. Norm worked 31 SC vounties vs. 13 for me. And he worked 30 IN counties vs. 18 for me. I don't understand condx these days. It used to be that you could at least count on working Texas all day long on 20 and 15, but there were long stretches where I couldn't hear Norm at all. I hope condx are more normal next year. Or are these normal conditions? I had to operate the contest without my Bug Catcher. I lost the top part in last year's PAQP. I ordered the new parts but I was not able to locate the mast until after the contest. That hurt me a little on 40M but it wouldn't have made any difference on 20. On a brighter note, I thought that mobile participation was way up this year. I worked 21 other mobiles so including me there were at least 22 mobiles on during the contest. (But where are their logs?) We need to try to get some of these folks to put more time on the air next year and it will do a lot to draw in fixed station participation and make the contest even more fun. Congratulations again to Jeff for an outstanding effort. He'll have a tough time topping 74 counties in the future! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - FOR THE RECORD - 2000 Below are scores of the top ten stations in each category of operation for the 34 years of this contest through 2000. Scores were adjusted based on the pre-1996 scoring rules (3 points for mobiles and DX vs 15 and 5 points, respectively, beginning in 1996). MOBILES PORTABLES FIXED -------------------- ------------------- --------------------- 1,548,572 K5LZO 1986 486,780 WA4PGM 1984 1,528,065 K5ZD 1986 943,893 KB5FU 1986 318,080 N4BP 1979 1,270,332 AI9X 1986 788,840 N5JJ 1983 309,690 K4PUZ 1972 1,028,456 N7TT 1986 641,058 N5RM 1985 220,869 K3KX 1975 1,024,002 K9BG 1983 605,024 W9MSE 2000 217,790 W7YS 1986 860,172 KC6CNV 1997 560,448 WC5D 1980 199,789 K9YR 1974 726,642 W1GNR 1983 543,382 N5JJ 1982 197,580 AD9UKM 1976 671,590 KS7T 1986 541,368 KN4Y 2000 197,286 NX4C 1985 670,032 N7TT 1983 530,705 W3DYA 2000 171,602 NU4O 1986 649,722 W7GHT 1983 529,650 W9MSE 1997 164,772 K0MT 1979 628,575 W1GNR 1984 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 2001 (35TH) MARAC COUNTY HUNTERS CW CONTEST 0000Z Saturday May 5 to 2400Z Sunday May 6, 2001 The Mobile Amateur Radio Awards Club is pleased to sponsor the 35th Annual County Hunters CW Contest. Mobile, Portable, and Fixed operation from every county in the US is encouraged. RULES: Fixed Stations may be worked only once on each band. U.S. Mobiles and Portables (identified by signing /M or /P) may be worked each time they change county or band; and when operating on county lines count as one QSO, but the receiving station may count each county as a separate multiplier. A station may not operate more than one transmitter at one time. EXCHANGE: Signal report, county, and state for U. S. stations. Signal report, province(Canada) or country for other stations. SCORING: For a valid contact, one station must be in a U.S County. One point for Fixed stations; 15 points for U.S. Mobiles and Portables (operating from more than one county); 5 points for DX. Controlled Net contacts are invalid for contest purposes. FINAL SCORE = TOTAL QSO POINTS times TOTAL NUMBER OF U. S. COUNTIES WORKED. Mobiles and Portables changing states during the contest should calculate their scores for each state and total score. Total Overall Score must not count a county as a multiplier more than once regardless of the mobile's county or band. FREQUENCIES: CW: 3.575, 7.040, 14.050, 21.050, 28.050. Fixed Stations should operate above these frequencies; mobiles, below. AWARDS: MARAC Contest Certificates: First Place Fixed in each State, Canadian Province, and Country. First Place Mobile in each State. MARAC Contest Plaques: 1st and 2nd place Mobile in the U.S 1st and 2nd place U.S. Fixed station 1st place Canadian Station 1st place DX station. For contest purposes, DX is any country other than the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. Send completed logs and summary sheet by June 8, 2001, to: Norm Beavers W3DYA 3320 McMillan Drive Tyler, TX 75701-8239 or email to: w3dya@juno.com (text or WORD .DOC files OK). Contest package available on request. --part1_c8.6acb017.2688a549_boundary-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From jpryor@arches.uga.edu Mon Jun 26 13:49:10 2000 From: jpryor@arches.uga.edu (Jay Pryor) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:49:10 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Field Day Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000626084910.00a3e1cc@imap.arches.uga.edu> Hello all, You will be hearing about our score later, and we will likely be posting some photos, but I wanted to pass along a very preliminary report on the effort by W4NT. We made just under 1,000 QSOs each on CW and Phone. Operators included AD4J, K2UFT, K9AY, N8LM and me. Rigs included AD4J's TS-870 on phone and K2UFT's TS-940 on CW. Dick's generator performed flawlessly again this year, except that we kept forgetting that it had to be fed gasoline. We were pleased to work K7ABC, with K4BAI at the helm, from K6LL's QTH in AZ. I want to acknowledge the help of Bob, W4OWY, who showed up on Friday and helped me get antennas up. That was a tremendous help and very much appreciated. More later. 73, - Jay/K4OGG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From aa4nn@juno.com Wed Jun 28 06:31:07 2000 From: aa4nn@juno.com (Joe L Blackwell) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:31:07 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Possible club call Message-ID: <20000628.013116.-144159.14.AA4NN@juno.com> Hi John, de Joe aa4nn Thanks for explaning how you go about checking death certificates, getting calls lined up, etc. What it looks like to me is a CRAP SHOOT with the FCC as far as trying for a specific callsign. I can't believe the FCC does a random selection on a callsign if more than one person applies for it on the same day. Who in their right mind would do this. Through ULS a person applies for a callsign and the request gets assigned an application number, a long number. Looks to me like the lowest application number (the person who got there first) would get dibs on the call sign. This random selection just makes me want to go into a small room and throw up. 73, de Joe aa4nn Ten-Tec only, CW only. eeetet ee -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From w4an@contesting.com Wed Jun 28 03:28:42 2000 From: w4an@contesting.com (Bill Fisher - W4AN) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SECC] Possible club call In-Reply-To: <20000628.013116.-144159.14.AA4NN@juno.com> Message-ID: There is nothing random about the selection process. My data tells me that the last application entered ONLINE on the day a callsign is available will get the callsign in question. Case study: Whiskey Four Alpha November 73 On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Joe L Blackwell wrote: > Hi John, de Joe aa4nn > > Thanks for explaning how you go about checking death certificates, > getting calls lined up, etc. > > What it looks like to me is a CRAP SHOOT with the FCC as far as > trying for a specific callsign. I can't believe the FCC does a random > selection on a callsign if more than one person applies for it on the > same day. Who in their right mind would do this. Through ULS a > person applies for a callsign and the request gets assigned an > application number, a long number. Looks to me like the lowest > application number (the person who got there first) would get dibs > on the call sign. This random selection just makes me want to > go into a small room and throw up. > > 73, de Joe aa4nn > Ten-Tec only, CW only. > eeetet ee > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html > Submissions: secc@contesting.com > Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com > Search: http://www.contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From k4sb@mindspring.com Wed Jun 28 04:03:16 2000 From: k4sb@mindspring.com (Edward W. Sleight) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:03:16 +0000 Subject: [SECC] Possible club call References: Message-ID: <39596AF4.2468206C@mindspring.com> Fellows, I have worked at this since the Vanity program opened. Think I have the bookmarks on the office computer and will see if I can't quote chapter and verse. However, ANY thought that the process is not be random selection ( except in a few cases where apparently a few big wigs overrule the process,,,the reassignment of W4DX is a specific case ) There is a WEB page where I think I can find. On it, you will see ALL the applications for a specific call, in the order they were submitted, and who wound up with the call. Bill, the rules have changed since you got W4AN. Used to be first come, first served, but that is not the case anymore. More 73 Ed -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From aa4nn@juno.com Wed Jun 28 08:12:26 2000 From: aa4nn@juno.com (Joe L Blackwell) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:12:26 -0400 Subject: [SECC] Possible club call Message-ID: <20000628.031234.-144159.17.AA4NN@juno.com> I guess this means he who applies first loses and he who applies last wins. Seems upside down to me. I've concerned myself about how to be first in line, now I am thinking about how to get on the tail end of a request. 73, de Joe aa4nn Bill Fisher writes: > > There is nothing random about the selection process. My data tells me > that the last application entered ONLINE on the day a callsign is > available will get the callsign in question. > > Case study: Whiskey Four Alpha November > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From w4an@contesting.com Wed Jun 28 04:14:45 2000 From: w4an@contesting.com (Bill Fisher - W4AN) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SECC] Possible club call In-Reply-To: <39596AF4.2468206C@mindspring.com> Message-ID: You are incorrect about the process when the flood gates opened. I did extensive research with guys who submitted applications on the web and noted the times in which they submitted their applications. In all cases, for a given day, the last guy to submit an application for a callsign on the day the callsign was available (via the web) got the callsign. I would not be surprised if they changed the way they did it since then, but that was the way they did it when gate-1 was opened. Anyone who submitted an application on the web got their selections first. Unfortunately, I wasn't smart enough to send in 10 applications with all of my choices via 10 different methods. As it turns out, had you done so, you would have received your new callsign on the first application processed and all other subsequent apps would have been returned due the callsign of the station requesting the new call being reassigned. I don't doubt they have changed their ways. Not that it probably made any difference, but I made a lot of noise about their proposed way of handling applications and the way they actually got handled. I sent and received replies back from several people high up in the FCC. They basically said "Sorry OM, we'll get back to you". My advise is to submit the app via a number of methods if you really want the callsign. The two methods I would select first would be submitting the application just after midnight (by the FCC's web site computer, not yours, or Boulder's... the FCC's is the only one that matters), and one just before midnight on the same day. I have a story about the FCC's clock on their web site too, but I won't bore you with those details. 73 bill On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Edward W. Sleight wrote: > Fellows, I have worked at this since the Vanity program opened. > > Think I have the bookmarks on the office computer and will see if I > can't quote chapter and verse. However, ANY thought that the process > is not be random selection ( except in a few cases where apparently a > few big wigs overrule the process,,,the reassignment of W4DX is a > specific case ) There is a WEB page where I think I can find. On it, > you will see ALL the applications for a specific call, in the order > they were submitted, and who wound up with the call. > > Bill, the rules have changed since you got W4AN. Used to be first > come, first served, but that is not the case anymore. > > More > > 73 > Ed > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html > Submissions: secc@contesting.com > Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com > Search: http://www.contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From k4sb@mindspring.com Wed Jun 28 04:31:30 2000 From: k4sb@mindspring.com (Ed Sleight) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:31:30 +0000 Subject: [SECC] Possible club call References: Message-ID: <39597192.D0CA08CF@mindspring.com> I thought I made it absolutely clear that the procedure has changed. I furthermore have no doubt at all that the reason for the change was to allow the FCC to favor those they wished. My only thought on this matter is a matter of time. I have not been informed of the call in question. But, just to settle all the arguments over who's right and who's wrong, goto to http://www.fcc.org/amateur/vnityfaq.html and read it for yourself. You should be especially interested in the fact that a 2 year waiting period is NOT required in 2 out of the 3 instances. Must have wiped out my bookmark on the callsign database I mentioned, but will try to find it. 73 Ed -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From w4an@contesting.com Wed Jun 28 04:45:06 2000 From: w4an@contesting.com (Bill Fisher - W4AN) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SECC] Possible club call In-Reply-To: <39597192.D0CA08CF@mindspring.com> Message-ID: As for the club callsign... I would suggest following Ed's advice. I'm outta the loop. 73 Bill On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Ed Sleight wrote: > I thought I made it absolutely clear that the procedure has changed. I > furthermore have no doubt at all that the reason for the change was to > allow the FCC to favor those they wished. > > My only thought on this matter is a matter of time. I have not been > informed of the call in question. > > But, just to settle all the arguments over who's right and who's wrong, > goto to http://www.fcc.org/amateur/vnityfaq.html and read it for > yourself. > > You should be especially interested in the fact that a 2 year waiting > period is NOT required in 2 out of the 3 instances. > > Must have wiped out my bookmark on the callsign database I mentioned, > but will try to find it. > > 73 > > Ed > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html > Submissions: secc@contesting.com > Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com > Search: http://www.contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From thompson@mindspring.com Wed Jun 28 05:08:47 2000 From: thompson@mindspring.com (thompson@mindspring.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:08:47 -0400 Subject: [SECC] club call Message-ID: <000b01bfe0b6$90085c80$085a56d1@default> Is there a club call for the South East Contest Club now??? Dave K4JRB -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From gary@noblepub.com Wed Jun 28 13:49:03 2000 From: gary@noblepub.com (Gary Breed) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:49:03 -0400 Subject: [SECC] club call References: <000b01bfe0b6$90085c80$085a56d1@default> Message-ID: <004601bfe0ff$3d500580$0f0210ac@gary> Dave and all... There is no SECC club call that I am aware of. Previous discussion ended with no action. Is this a matter of importance to the club now? I will be happy to do some investigating if the membership wishes. Gary K9AY SECC Secretary ---------------- > Is there a club call for the South East Contest Club now??? > > Dave K4JRB > > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From k4sb@mindspring.com Wed Jun 28 15:02:58 2000 From: k4sb@mindspring.com (Ed Sleight) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:02:58 +0000 Subject: [SECC] club call References: <000b01bfe0b6$90085c80$085a56d1@default> <004601bfe0ff$3d500580$0f0210ac@gary> Message-ID: <395A0592.E4861CD6@mindspring.com> OK, apparently the format has changed slightly, but to put most of the "guesses as to what, when and why" to bed for good, check out http://www.carrol-usa.com/vanity/ You will note that there are NO 4 land 1x2s currently available. A reminder, I still have the master database from before they changed over the format, and it is possible from my software to identify those calls which will expire this year. 73 Ed -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From aa4lr@radio.org Wed Jun 28 15:07:02 2000 From: aa4lr@radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:07:02 -0400 Subject: [SECC] club call Message-ID: <1000528100701.KAA27885@gate.iterated.com> On 6/28/00 10:02 AM, Ed Sleight at k4sb@mindspring.com wrote: > >http://www.carrol-usa.com/vanity/ That URL does not work for me. I get "The specified server could not be found." Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@radio.org Quote: "Boot, you transistorized tormentor! Boot!" -- Archibald Asparagus, VeggieTales -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From thompson@mindspring.com Wed Jun 28 18:45:59 2000 From: thompson@mindspring.com (thompson@mindspring.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:45:59 -0400 Subject: [SECC] club call References: <000b01bfe0b6$90085c80$085a56d1@default> <004601bfe0ff$3d500580$0f0210ac@gary> Message-ID: <004201bfe128$b8e1a400$5d1045cf@default> Gary, what Ed says is true there are no more 1x2 vanity calls left, but I have access to a SK call that expires in Nov 2000. I asked the FCC about changing the name of an existing club...NO they said. I asked is an established club required with a current call (KG4NNN for example) and they said yes. I was told the FCC is getting ready to put club calls in WIP or hold until a club call administrator is appointed. The call is well known and a 1X2. Dave K4JRB > Dave and all... > > There is no SECC club call that I am aware of. Previous discussion > ended with no action. > > Is this a matter of importance to the club now? I will be happy to > do some investigating if the membership wishes. > > Gary K9AY > SECC Secretary > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From NQ4I@compuserve.com Wed Jun 28 19:11:18 2000 From: NQ4I@compuserve.com (Rick Dougherty) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:11:18 -0400 Subject: [SECC] club call Message-ID: <200006281411_MC2-AA7C-B00@compuserve.com> Have a club call already ...it is assigned to the Dixie dx'ers...its W4KZ and can use it as club call if necessary...de Rick -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From k4sb@mindspring.com Wed Jun 28 21:01:54 2000 From: k4sb@mindspring.com (Ed Sleight) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:01:54 +0000 Subject: [SECC] club call References: <000b01bfe0b6$90085c80$085a56d1@default> <004601bfe0ff$3d500580$0f0210ac@gary> <3.0.1.32.20000628102008.00a50064@imap.arches.uga.edu> Message-ID: <395A59B2.DEDD000A@mindspring.com> Whoops, try this one...left off an "L" http://www.carroll-usa.com/vanity Hell to get old. 73 Ed -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From k4sb@mindspring.com Wed Jun 28 21:10:37 2000 From: k4sb@mindspring.com (Ed Sleight) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:10:37 +0000 Subject: [SECC] club call References: <000b01bfe0b6$90085c80$085a56d1@default> <004601bfe0ff$3d500580$0f0210ac@gary> <004201bfe128$b8e1a400$5d1045cf@default> Message-ID: <395A5BBD.A40E3131@mindspring.com> thompson@mindspring.com wrote: I asked the FCC about changing the name of an existing club...NO they said. Well, the FCC is dead wrong on this one. An existing club name may be changed by an amendment of the Constitution and By Laws of the club. BOTH must be submitted to the FCC. I've gone through this before with them. 73 Ed -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From AB4RU@aol.com Wed Jun 28 23:05:48 2000 From: AB4RU@aol.com (AB4RU@aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:05:48 EDT Subject: [SECC] Club Call Message-ID: Hello, This maybe a stupied question, but why do we need a club call? Maybe we could use it on the SECC reflector to identify in CW. HAHA Ron -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From jpryor@arches.uga.edu Thu Jun 29 13:12:35 2000 From: jpryor@arches.uga.edu (Jay Pryor) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:12:35 -0400 Subject: [SECC] GOOD LUCK K4BAI & K4UEE! Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000629081235.00a48010@imap.arches.uga.edu> This is forwarded FYI. Also, let's wish good luck to SECC members K4BAI and K4UEE as they go to Slovenia and compete, K4BAI with partner K6LL, and K4UEE with N6IG. It should be great fun for them, and for us as we look for the competitors next weekend! Good luck John and Bob! - Jay/K4OGG >Return-Path: >X-Sender: brelih05@pop.siol.net >Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:06:43 +0200 >To: 3830@contesting.com >From: "Dan, S50U" >Subject: [3830] WRTC 2000 & AWARDS >Sender: owner-3830@contesting.com >X-List-Info: http://www.contesting.com/3830faq.html >X-Sponsor: W4AN, KM3T, N5KO & AD1C > > >WRTC 2000 in IARU HF Championship > >Plaques and awards for working special S5 WRTC stations > >WRTC 2000 takes part during the IARU HF Championship. There >would be 53 stations with special callsigns S511A-S588Z. >Each QSO counts 1 point regardless of band or mode. Multi op. >and Single op. stations compete together for the awards while >IARU HQ stations would be rated separately. > >T-shirt will be awarded to all stations with more than 80 >(DX, EU-160) points. > >Plaques and awards will be given to the stations with highest >number of points: > >1.place 2. and 3. place >WW plaque + award diploma + award >EU plaque + award diploma + award >NA plaque + award diploma + award >SA plaque + award diploma + award >AS plaque + award diploma + award >AF plaque + award diploma + award >OC plaque + award diploma + award >S5 diploma + award diploma + award >USA diploma + award diploma + award >JA diploma + award diploma + award >HQ diploma + award diploma + award > > >Special acknowledgements and practical awards will be given to >the following stations: > >- Worked All WRTC Stations - MIXED >- Worked All WRTC Stations - CW >- Worked All WRTC Stations - SSB >- Worked All WRTC Stations - Single Band > >Each station may compete in only one of the above categories >under #3. > >Checklog (email or disk) should be send to WRTC Organizing >Comitee until August 15th, 2000. > >Stations emailing whole IARU HF Championship log not later than >9th July 2000 23:59 UTC would be automatically included in the >competition for above awards. These logs would be used for >crosschecking. The Internet email address is: > >wrtc-logs@s5.net or scc@bit.si . > > >WRTC 2000 ORGANIZATIONAL COMMITTEE >http://wrtc2000.bit.si > >SCC webmaster : http://lea.hamradio.si/~scc >______________________________________________________________________ >Danilo Brelih HAM: S50U >Gorje #14 A email: danilo.brelih@siol.net >5282 Cerkno or: s50u@hamradio.si >Slovenia tel: +386 65 745 117 > http://lea.hamradio.si/~s50u >______________________________________________________________________ > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/3830 >Submissions: 3830@contesting.com >Administrative requests: 3830-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-3830@contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From gary@noblepub.com Thu Jun 29 15:23:46 2000 From: gary@noblepub.com (Gary Breed) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:23:46 -0400 Subject: [SECC] ARRL 160 results Message-ID: <000901bfe1d5$a2faeae0$0f0210ac@gary> The ARRL Members only Web site now has the results of the 1999 ARRL 160 contest. The SECC was well-represented and was 3rd place in in the Medium Club Competition! Members with scores listed were N4DU, K4BAI, K4EA, W4NTI, K4XR and N1CC, plus the following: W8JI -- #1 Multi op (W8JI,WA4TT,N8VW) AA4GA -- #2 SO Low Power (@W4WA) K9AY -- #5 SO Low Power A good showing for the club! -- Gary, K9AY -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From jpryor@arches.uga.edu Thu Jun 29 16:14:54 2000 From: jpryor@arches.uga.edu (Jay Pryor) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:14:54 -0400 Subject: [SECC] ARRL 160 results In-Reply-To: <000901bfe1d5$a2faeae0$0f0210ac@gary> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000629111454.00a4a8d0@imap.arches.uga.edu> Wow. Congratulations Tom et al.; Lee and Gary! It's worthy of note that the first and second place clubs had 20 and 27 entries respectively, compared with SECC's 8 entries. - Jay/K4OGG At 10:23 AM 6/29/2000 -0400, Gary Breed wrote: >The ARRL Members only Web site now has the results of the >1999 ARRL 160 contest. > >The SECC was well-represented and was 3rd place in in the >Medium Club Competition! Members with scores listed were N4DU, >K4BAI, K4EA, W4NTI, K4XR and N1CC, plus the following: > >W8JI -- #1 Multi op (W8JI,WA4TT,N8VW) > >AA4GA -- #2 SO Low Power (@W4WA) > >K9AY -- #5 SO Low Power > > > > > >A good showing for the club! -- Gary, K9AY > > > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html >Submissions: secc@contesting.com >Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com >Search: http://www.contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From K4BAI@worldnet.att.net Fri Jun 30 00:42:57 2000 From: K4BAI@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:42:57 -0700 Subject: [SECC] One less "dah-dah-dih-dah" References: <20000624023021.23533.qmail@web6004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <395BDF01.7D59@worldnet.att.net> Hi Gary: Condolences on your new call. I predict you will get tired of hearing, "Please repeat the last letter again." 73, John, K4BAI. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com From gary@noblepub.com Fri Jun 30 20:59:42 2000 From: gary@noblepub.com (Gary Breed) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:59:42 -0400 Subject: [SECC] 2 new members Message-ID: <001001bfe2cd$bb9a7c20$0f0210ac@gary> Two hams have recently joined SECC: Chris Wynn, N4XFA Douglasville, GA cw384@aol.com Chris is interested in any CW contest (as you can tell by the choice of e-mail address). He is an ARRL member and once was KC4MAY. Maybe we can get Chris on a NAQP team in August. Guy West, DU1/N0MMA Valenzuela City, Phillipines gwest@febc.org.ph Guy was an Atlanta-area resident until something over a year ago. He likes SS when back in the states, and likes all DX contests (so would I as a desirable DU multiplier!) Stay in touch with us on the reflector, Guy...and send in your scores for us in contests that don't have geographical restrictions! 73, Gary K9AY SECC Secretary -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/seccfaq.html Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com