I bet Archie could say "Archie" as in the Comic Book or as in "Archie and Veronica" as well as "Archie Bunker" and get the idea across. 73, John. -- SECC on the Web: http://secc.contesting.com/ Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com