One of the guys commented that 1850 is technically in the phone band. How about we move our meeting to 1830? 1200 and 1300, or for that matter, on the top of every hour afterward until the band opens. 73 Ed -- SECC on the Web: http://secc.contesting.com/ Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com