Gary, Since I'm from SC I would really prefer to keep the 175 Mile rule. I don't think there is enough contest activity here in SC to form a separate group. Of course it will be up to the majority. John W2JJC -- SECC on the Web: http://secc.contesting.com/ Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com