hmmmm.... let's see.... if you take out N4UK, K4AB, K4NO, AA4S, W4OC, W2JCC, etc. the SECC club scores will definitely go down. N4UK and i can start the South Carolina Contest Club! whose idea was this anyway? 73 -- SECC on the Web: http://secc.contesting.com/ Submissions: secc@contesting.com Administrative requests: secc-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-secc@contesting.com