[SECC] Phonetics

Dan/W4NTI w4nti@mindspring.com
Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:13:53 -0600


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You think thats bad?  Try W4NTI  and get K2 out of it ???  eh???

Dan/W4NTI

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Larry Crim=20
  To: Greg Richard ; SECC@contesting.com=20
  Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 5:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [SECC] Phonetics


  I keep getting responses as K "ONE" AB.

  I can't figure that out for the life of me.

  73,
  Larry K4AB=20

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Greg Richard
    Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 21:06
    To: SECC@contesting.com
    Subject: Re: [SECC] Phonetics

    I didn't operate much in the ARRL SSB contest but I heard a CT1 =
station on
    Sunday morning.  He had lots of guys calling but every 2nd one was a =
dupe.
    He was talking fairly fast and when he called CQ, it sounded like he =
said
    Charlie Tango One Alpha Fox United.  A stateside guy would call and =
when the
    CT1 gave the exchange, he'd say "dupe"  I guess it took a couple of =
seconds
    to get the call in the computer.  Then the stateside guys would ask =
for his
    call and he gave it phonetically again but a bit slower and it was =
CT1APU.
    I listened for about 5 minutes and he must have had 8 dupes call in =
during
    this time.  I wanted to jump in and suggest he change phonetics but =
I
    didn't.

    The moral of the story is IF you have alot of guys calling you that =
are
    dupes, CHANGE THE PHONETICS YOU ARE USING especially if there is a
    consistency to the letter(s) they continue to bust.  I know that =
when I
    start talking real fast on SSB, alot of guys get the 4 in my =
callsign as a
    2.  It happened when I was KC4ZV and it still happens now as K4NO.

    Just one of the things you can control to help reduce dupes in a =
contest.

    Anybody got other thoughts?

    Greg K4NO
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Dick Bentley" <k2uft@yahoo.com>
    To: <SECC@contesting.com>
    Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:12 PM
    Subject: [SECC] Phonetics


    > Court K4WI reported problems with his call being
    > misinterpreted in the SSB test.  While tuning around
    > on 20 meters I ran into a CT1 whose phonetics I
    > absolutely did not understand.  I know my ears roll
    > off around 1,000 cycles as a result of 44 years of CW,
    > but this guy seemed to be saying Charlie Tango One
    > Alpha WATEL Uniform.  I assume the Watel was Hotel and
    > it was CT1AHU.  No one calling him seemed to have any
    > problem understanding his call, at least no one asked
    > for fills or repeats. Anyone notice this?
    >
    > Dick  K2UFT
    >
    >
    >
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  <DIV>I keep getting responses as&nbsp;K "ONE" AB.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I can't figure that out for the life of me.</DIV>
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  <DIV>73,</DIV>
  <DIV>Larry K4AB&nbsp;</DIV>
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    Greg Richard</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 07, =
2002=20
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    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>I didn't operate much in the ARRL SSB contest but I =
heard a=20
    CT1 station on<BR>Sunday morning.&nbsp; He had lots of guys calling =
but=20
    every 2nd one was a dupe.<BR>He was talking fairly fast and when he =
called=20
    CQ, it sounded like he said<BR>Charlie Tango One Alpha Fox =
United.&nbsp; A=20
    stateside guy would call and when the<BR>CT1 gave the exchange, he'd =
say=20
    "dupe"&nbsp; I guess it took a couple of seconds<BR>to get the call =
in the=20
    computer.&nbsp; Then the stateside guys would ask for his<BR>call =
and he=20
    gave it phonetically again but a bit slower and it was CT1APU.<BR>I =
listened=20
    for about 5 minutes and he must have had 8 dupes call in =
during<BR>this=20
    time.&nbsp; I wanted to jump in and suggest he change phonetics but=20
    I<BR>didn't.<BR><BR>The moral of the story is IF you have alot of =
guys=20
    calling you that are<BR>dupes, CHANGE THE PHONETICS YOU ARE USING =
especially=20
    if there is a<BR>consistency to the letter(s) they continue to =
bust.&nbsp; I=20
    know that when I<BR>start talking real fast on SSB, alot of guys get =
the 4=20
    in my callsign as a<BR>2.&nbsp; It happened when I was KC4ZV and it =
still=20
    happens now as K4NO.<BR><BR>Just one of the things you can control =
to help=20
    reduce dupes in a contest.<BR><BR>Anybody got other =
thoughts?<BR><BR>Greg=20
    K4NO<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Dick Bentley"=20
    &lt;k2uft@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>To: &lt;SECC@contesting.com&gt;<BR>Sent:=20
    Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:12 PM<BR>Subject: [SECC]=20
    Phonetics<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Court K4WI reported problems with his call =

    being<BR>&gt; misinterpreted in the SSB test.&nbsp; While tuning=20
    around<BR>&gt; on 20 meters I ran into a CT1 whose phonetics =
I<BR>&gt;=20
    absolutely did not understand.&nbsp; I know my ears roll<BR>&gt; off =
around=20
    1,000 cycles as a result of 44 years of CW,<BR>&gt; but this guy =
seemed to=20
    be saying Charlie Tango One<BR>&gt; Alpha WATEL Uniform.&nbsp; I =
assume the=20
    Watel was Hotel and<BR>&gt; it was CT1AHU.&nbsp; No one calling him =
seemed=20
    to have any<BR>&gt; problem understanding his call, at least no one=20
    asked<BR>&gt; for fills or repeats. Anyone notice =
this?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
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