[SECC] K4OGG, CWSS

[Jeffrey Clarke]

"2.4.3. Listening time counts as operating time." 

Seems like this would be hard to prove. What if I got on at 1200Z(after
an off time) and didn't make a QSO that showed up in my log until 1205
Z. That's say that off time was at 11:35Z and you got back on at 1200Z
by accident (kind of what Jay did). You have NO know way of proving you
were operating from 1200z - 1205Z because it would not be reflected in
your log in any way. 

Plus Jay could of been making his last QSO before he took his off time,
one minute before he logged it but because of entering the long
exchange it was not logged until a minute later.

The "2.4.3. Listening time counts as operating time" rule is ambigous
because all the SO2R and multi-ops are on more that one band at a time.
For SS you are not considered on a band unless you are transmitting.
When I used to operate SS at KW8N, we were basically M/M, but because
we had an octopus device, which prevented us from transmitting on 2
bands at the same time it was legal with the ARRL...

I bet 99% of everyone would edit their log. I respect Jay's honesty....

                 Jeff

--- Bill Coleman <aa4lr@arrl.net> wrote:
> On 11/5/02 11:38 AM, Jay Pryor at jpryor@arches.uga.edu wrote:
> 
> >At one point I messed up and I wonder how I will be penalized.  I
> took 
> >a 30 minute break and went to watch some of the Falcons game.  I
> went back 
> >to the radio just before 30 minutes was up, heard a new station,
> called him 
> >and logged him 29 minutes into what was supposed to be a 30 minute 
> >break.  My guess is that I will lose 13 QSOs that I made the final
> 30 
> >minutes of the contest.  Does anyone know how that's handled?
> 
> Can the rules be any more clear? 
> 
> "2.4.1. Off periods may not be less than 30 minutes in length. 
>  2.4.3. Listening time counts as operating time. "
> 
> You cannot be taking a 30 minute break if you are listening before
> the 30 
> minutes is up.
> 
> Moral: Turn the radio OFF during break time.
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
> Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
>             -- Wilbur Wright, 1901
> 
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