[SECC] A long post about the SECC...was:
Gary McConville
wb4sq at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 3 11:21:48 EDT 2004
My belief is that if XYLs are included in a social events once in a
while, they'll be more tolerable with our radio activities...
Gary - WB4SQ
--- ku8e at bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> No disrespect for W4AN, but I don't know if I really personally care
> for the "internet only club idea" anyway. Only reason I joined SECC
> is that it was the only club down here interested in contesting.
> Maybe we need to "re think" this whole concept ?? Is there an
> interest in changing ??
>
> I am not proposing that we have formal meetings, meeting
> requirements or even
> a demand that you operate so many contests or you will be kicked out
> of the club. AA4GA is right in commenting that the formal processes
> we do have in place are only there to meet ARRL requirements.
>
> What I am proposing is that are membership maybe think about having
> activities that promote camaraderie in the club. This could include
> rallying around a specific contest and set a goal to win the club
> competition or have a social event such as a club FD and picnic,
> social meeting etc.... And number one is
> to get on an OPERATE and submit your score for SECC. Lee says this is
> an "OPERATING club" but lately there has been a lack of that as well.
>
> Also, I disagree with AA4GA's comment that we could never be like
> MRRC,SMC, etc...Those clubs have a membership that it spread out as
> well. Look at SMC. They have members from MN,IA and as far east as
> IN. If you look at our roster the core of our membership is in GA,
> especially around the Atlanta area. We also have about 7 members in
> SC , 17 in AL, of which not all are active.
>
>
> Maybe my comments are out of line being on of the new people on the
> block down here as far as contesting... My idea of having a club is
> to promote
> camaraderie about contesting and socialize with people who have the
> same interest. If everyone just wants to stay at the Status Quo and
> leave it the way it is that's fine... But I will probably not be part
> of it...
>
> 73, Jeff
>
> >
> > From: "Lee Hiers" <aa4ga at contesting.com>
> > Date: 2004/09/02 Thu PM 08:20:09 EDT
> > To: <secc at contesting.com>
> > Subject: A long post about the SECC...was: Re: [SECC]
> >
> > On 2 Sep 2004 at 16:54, Jay Pryor wrote:
> >
> > > I agree wholeheartedly that the club would benefit from
> face-to-face
> > > meetings and exchanges of ideas. However, it was because of the
> every day
> > > demands on many of us, including KU8E and others, that the club
> was
> > > established by W4AN (who disliked meetings) to interact with one
> another
> > > via the internet. Read "About Us" on the SECC web site, crafted
> by K2UFT.
> >
> > That comes as close to anything to describing the character of the
> > club as I've seen written down for posterity.
> >
> > I remember discussing it with W4AN and W4WA before we ever started
> > the club. None of us were interested in any of the political BS
> that
> > comes with most clubs. None of us wanted regular meetings at all.
>
> > The whole thing was designed to take place right here on the
> > reflector. The reflector was considered to be a continuous virtual
>
> > meeting.
> >
> > You've got a question or need some help, ask here on the reflector.
>
> > Contest coming up and we need some ra-ra...do it here on the
> > reflector. You're gonna be in Huntsville for a couple days and
> want
> > to get together and go out for a beer with some other SECCers -
> talk
> > it up on the reflector.
> >
> > The sole reason for starting a club was to have a regional
> > organization for which we could report scores in club competition.
>
> > Why? Because the only other alternative would be something like
> the
> > Valdosta RC, where there might be one or two or zero people
> > interested in contests.
> >
> > This area of the country has never had anything like PVRC, FRC,
> MRRC,
> > etc. - and never will - because there just aren't that many serious
>
> > contesters located in a dense area that would support that.
> >
> > Years ago, when NQ4I moved down here, he found out there wasn't a
> > contest club. The closest thing was the SEDXC, and there weren't a
>
> > lot of folks interested in contesting there really. I remember
> going
> > to an SEDXC meeting and when asked what I wanted to get out of the
> > club replying that I was a contestor and mostly interested in that
> > aspect of radio, and was looking for a place to report my
> > scores...well, I was cold-shouldered the rest of the night, and for
>
> > most of the several years I was a member of that club. I enjoyed
> > going to the club meetings when I was able and had some good
> friends
> > that were members of that club...most of whom were contesters to
> one
> > degree or another: N4RJ, N4NX, etc.
> >
> > Anyway, when Rick moved to GA, he realized that the SEDXC wasn't
> > going to cut it as a contest club (I think his experience may have
> > been a bit more intense than mine) so, he started the Dixie DXers -
> a
> > contest club. I have never seen anyone put as much energy in
> trying
> > to get a contest club going as Rick did. He came from the FRC, and
>
> > was super gung-ho about it. It lasted for a few years, but
> > ultimately failed, I believe partially because Rick was really the
> > only one pushing that club, but mostly because there just isn't a
> > high enough density of contesters in the area to support a
> > "traditional" club.
> >
> > But the ONLY activity that the SECC was designed for was score
> > reporting - no GQP, no sponsoring of plaques, no treasury, no
> social
> > activities - nothing. Like John said - it is an OPERATING club.
> > The only reason there were any in-person meetings at all was to
> > satisfy the ARRL requirement at the time of two meetings per year.
>
> > And to reduce that burden even further, we decided that at each
> > gathering of members to hold two meetings. One meeting would be
> > called to order and with very little discussion the meeting would
> be
> > adjourned and a second meeting called to order, and it too would be
>
> > quickly adjourned with little discussion. Under the ideal
> > circumstances, both meetings would be over and done in about two
> > minutes. And the ARRL requirements for everyone in attendance were
>
> > satisfied.
> >
> > If you couldn't make the Atlanta Hamfest, but were going to be at
> the
> > Huntsville Hamfest, any two members could call a meeting, and with
> > the two meetings in one procedure, whoever was in attendance had
> > their ARRL requirements for attendance satisfied.
> > Whambamthankyoumaam.
> >
> > Of course usually folks would hang out and talk about contesting
> and
> > life and generally socialize before and after the official
> meetings,
> > but they weren't officially part of the club activities, and the
> > meetings weren't regularly scheduled.
> >
> > Now that the ARRL no longer has a 2-meetings per year requirement,
> > there is no need for the SECC to have ANY in-person official
> meetings
> > AT ALL.
> >
> > The only requirement for membership should be the submission of a
> > minimum of two scores per year in a contest with a club competition
> -
> > and I'm not sure we should really have that, although theoretically
>
> > it should increase the aggregate scores somewhat, so we decided to
> > implement that at the beginning. There should be no geographic
> > requirements for membership, although the club is designed to
> > primarily include folks from TN, NC, AL, GA, and SC.
> Geographically,
> > the only restrictions should be those imposed for specific contests
>
> > by their sponsors. And to accommodate those contests, we selected
> a
> > geographical center of the club.
> >
> > K4SB is a stickler on the by-laws (and this isn't an attack Ed!),
> but
> > the honest truth of the matter is that the ONLY reason there are
> any
> > written by-laws at all is because the ARRL required us to submit
> them
> > when we applied for affiliated club status.
> >
> > I'm going to comment some on these quotes below:
> >
> > > > > From: "Tommy" <aldermant at alltel.net>
> > > > >
> > > > > After coming back to south Georgia last year from the
> Washington, DC area
> > > > > and the PVRC, the Valdosta ARC is a true joke. The SECC, as
> Jeff mentions,
> > > > > has a very small core of active members and there seems to
> not be much
> > > > > effort in stimulating more activity. SECC officers seem to
> only speak up
> > > > > when someone tend's to 'rock the boat'! Is there any
> leadership?
>
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