[SECC] 2021 Georgia QSO Party

Bill Coleman aa4lr at arrl.net
Sun Jan 10 10:45:35 EST 2021 

While possible, the TX6 box isn’t verified and isn’t part of the sequence. That would make using FTx untenable for the GaQP. 

> On Jan 8, 2021, at 5:25 PM, John H. Brown via SECC <secc at contesting.com> wrote:
> 
> County abbreviations can be exchanged in FT4 and FT8 by using the TX Macros or by free typing in the TX6 box. It’s the same manner in which 10-10 numbers are exchanged. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> John H. Brown
> (404) 989-0583
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2021, at 5:14 PM, John Laney <k4bai at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>>  I don't think that the FT4 or FT8 modes allow the exchange of county abbreviations.  If I am right about that, there can be no QSO party contacts on those modes.  There doesn't seem to be a great demand for RTTY contact credit at this time.  73, John, K4BAI.
>> 
>> On 1/8/2021 1:07 PM, Jeff Clarke wrote:
>>> The big problem with adding digital modes to GQP is it would maybe take away some CW QSO's from people. The real serious out-of-state mixed mode entries would probably use digital to boast their score. Those inside GA might make some QSO's but not many. It would be as interesting as watching paint dry on a         wall. John is right in saying there is little to no digital activity in any state QSO party. It's not really worth adding it as a mode in GQP. It's my experience that the only contests that have much digital activity are digital specific contests. Why do you think why CQWW DX RTTY allows US-US contacts but they don't on CQWW SSB or CQWW CW?
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> On 1/8/2021 08:21 AM, John Laney wrote:
>>>> I would have no problem with having two modes, SSB and CW/RTTY.   There simply is not enough RTTY or other digital activity in QSO parties to justify a separate category and separate awards.  If you will look at QSO party results across the years, the ones that have RTTY categories have very little participation in them.  Often there are no RTTY participants.  One factor is that there is an RTTY world wide contest on many weekends and, when those are on, it is almost impossible for anyone to make QSOs in a state QSO party on RTTY.  73, John, K4BAI.
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/8/2021 12:49 AM, Steven Schwab - KT4Q wrote:
>>>>> I am a new member or maybe better stated as a renewed SECC member from relocating out of Georgia in 2007. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> John (N4TOL) I feel makes a good point in understanding the positive side of counting multipliers once. I have participated in the Florida QSO Party for the last 12 years. It is one of the top QSO Parties in terms of participation. I am not a seasoned CW contester operator and always felt very uncompetitive in achieving the big awards. I get it where it takes more time to conduct a CW contact vs a phone contact but there always seemed to be significantly more overall cw contacts versus phone in the FQP. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If we were to overhaul the GaQP rules, I would love to see Digital (RTTY/PSK31) mode added to give the non-CW operator a 2x point option. One thing GaQP has over other QSO Parties including the FQP is allowing 80m and 160m contacts. This allows neighboring states to better enjoy in the contest. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I live on the NC/GA border in NC. This year and years to come, I have the option of working out of state from NC or activating Rabun, Towns, Union, and maybe other counties. Likely, as the rules are today, I will probably operate from NC where I could participate competitively via phone and CW (S&P). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> All the Best,
>>>>> Steve Schwab
>>>>> KT4Q
>>>>> 352/988-0202 (cell)
>>>>> kt4q.nc at gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my AT&T
>>>>> iPhone 11 Pro Max in Clay County, NC
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2021, at 3:46 PM, John Tramontanis via SECC <secc at contesting.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So it appears the majority if not all of the feedback and reasoning is leaning to keep things the way they are.  That is, the counting multipliers for each mode, versus, the counting of multipliers only once and not per mode.  We have seen folks make points for keeping the status quo.  Perhaps, if someone could illustrate what the plus side would be of changing to only counting multipliers once would give, some may be persuaded to rethink their stance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Although, I am not as long time a member as some, I still lean toward the counting of multipliers for each mode.  However, I would like to know what the reasons and benefits of changing to the other/new format would be?  Is a change in order?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 73 John N4TOL. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Jeff Clarke <ku8e at ku8e.com>
>>>>>> To: secc <secc at contesting.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 2:45 pm
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SECC] 2021 Georgia QSO Party
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm looking for more feedback about the GQP rules. I feedback I've got 
>>>>>> so far has been to keep it the way it is. Unfortunately the only 
>>>>>> responses I've received were from long time SECC members that have 
>>>>>> always been set in their ways and are reluctant to make changes to 
>>>>>> anything. So their responses were predictable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here are some statistics from 2020:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CW Entries : 181
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> SSB Entries :  219
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> MIXED Entries: 244
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Total CW QSOS : 31275   (Note: In a normal year when we have rovers you 
>>>>>> could probably add 5000+ QSOS to this total)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Total SSB QSOS: 30983
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like some more feedback before I make up my mind.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/6/2021 09:49 PM, Bill Coleman wrote:
>>>>>> > Counting multipliers once per mode only affects mixed mode scores. Those scores are judged in separate categories, so they aren’t comparable to CW or Phone-only scores.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If multipliers only count once, then there’s little incentive to work the other mode. That might have a deleterious effect on Phone entries.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Further, if you change the rules now, there’s not a lot of time for the contest software authors to change how their scoring works. A lot of folks might be scoring their entries the wrong way.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > My advise is to leave counting multipliers the way it is.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I didn’t realize that W4AN and W4NT were special bonus stations. I don’t know how I missed that.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> On Dec 28, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Jeff Clarke <ku8e at ku8e.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> The Georgia QSO Party will return to being a two day event in 2021.  The Georgia QSO Party is held annually the 2nd full weekend of April. There are two operating periods: 1800Z (2:00 pm EDST) Saturday until 0359Z (11:59 pm EDST) and Sunday and 1400Z (10:00 am EDST) to 2359Z. (7:59 pm EDST).  For 2021 that will be April 10 - April 11th.  Note the URL for the webpage has changed to https://gaqsoparty.com/
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I've been contemplating making some changes for 2021 :
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>     • Counting multipliers only once and not per mode.
>>>>>> >>     • Since COVID-19 will probably not be over by April continue to allow Multi-Ops to operate from more than one location. These locations need to be in the SAME COUNTY.  You also need to still follow the rules for Multi-Single and Multi-2 that are listed in the rules on the GQP webpage.
>>>>>> >>     • Continue to have W4AN and W4NT as bonus stations. I will probably just get rid of the 100 points per QSO and make it one point value for just making a QSO - Maybe 500 bonus points.  I would like both these stations to be operated from just one county. Maybe as a Multi-Op.
>>>>>> >>     • Also note rover operations will be allowed again.
>>>>>> >> I'm also asking everyone to please read the rules. The SECC and SEDXC aren't eligible for the club competition but I still get many logs that list both of these clubs. Also make sure the Cabrillo file that you submit is correct. N1MM Logger Plus is pretty reliable in generating it correctly but others aren't. I'm requesting feedback before I make these changes. Please send me your comments.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Jeff KU8E
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> GQP Contest Director
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >> SECC mailing list
>>>>>> >> SECC at contesting.com
>>>>>> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/secc
>>>>>> > Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: aa4lr at arrl.net
>>>>>> > Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com
>>>>>> > Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
>>>>>> >              -- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> SECC mailing list
>>>>>> SECC at contesting.com
>>>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/secc
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> SECC mailing list
>>>>>> SECC at contesting.com
>>>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/secc
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> SECC mailing list
>>>>> 
>>>>> SECC at contesting.com
>>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/secc
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SECC mailing list
>>>> 
>>>> SECC at contesting.com
>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/secc
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SECC mailing list
>>> 
>>> SECC at contesting.com
>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/secc
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SECC mailing list
>> SECC at contesting.com
>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/secc
> _______________________________________________
> SECC mailing list
> SECC at contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/secc

Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: aa4lr at arrl.net
Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
            -- Wilbur Wright, 1901

More information about the SECC mailing list