[SECC] 2021 GQP
Jeff Clarke
ku8e at ku8e.com
Sun Jan 10 18:02:18 EST 2021
Jere,
Thanks for your activity on SSB. Unfortunately it's not a good use of
time to operate SSB when you're a mobile because signals are weaker than
on SSB. The good thing for us is GA is located in a good area of the US
for propagation on 20 meters to high population areas. A 20 meter mobile
antenna will give you a louder signal than say on 75 or 40 meters. I've
been thinking it might be a good idea to add a rover class where you
drive to different locations and setup a real antenna on a temporary
mast. The rover class we have now with people using mobile antennas
would be renamed as a "mobile " class. The only other way to get more
activity on SSB is for people to get on the air from fixed stations.
Right now the main attraction after out-of-state stations have worked
all the fixed GA stations is to chase the rovers driving around GA,
which mainly do CW.
Jeff
On 1/10/2021 01:10 PM, kt4zb at aol.com wrote:
> I participated as a W4AN station on SSB last year and logged 816
> contacts from Chatham County (Savannah). WB9DBD logged 841 SSB
> contacts from HEAR. So there were a lot of people to work if you were
> on the bands in that mode. Being W4AN/CHTM also let me pass out bonus
> points which were deeply appreciated by a large number of people once
> they figured out that there were bonus points to be had. I even had a
> e-mail after the contest from a young ham's father thanking me for
> explaining to his son about the qso party, and finally hearing them
> during one of the pile ups.
>
> I have long felt that we could use more fixed SSB activity during the
> qso party. Since I only compete on phone, 1 or 2 points for each
> contact doesn't make much of a difference to me. However, leveling the
> field for fixed mixed stations might increase SSB activity as there
> would be more incentive for a mixed station to stay on the band for
> both CW and SSB if points per contact were the same.
>
> Now, my physical limitations prevent me from being competitive so I
> will be on this year helping to put CHTM on the air and talking to
> folks around the country.
>
> No matter what, it's supposed to be fun… and it is!
>
> Stay safe – Jere, KT4ZB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Coleman <aa4lr at arrl.net>
> To: ku8e <ku8e at ku8e.com>
> Cc: secc <secc at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sun, Jan 10, 2021 11:33 am
> Subject: Re: [SECC] 2021 GQP
>
> How did you arrive at 500 points?
>
> What’s the typical number of points that people earned last year?
>
> > On Jan 10, 2021, at 11:26 AM, ku8e <ku8e at ku8e.com
> <mailto:ku8e at ku8e.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > I would change the points to something like 500 points total to
> working W4AN or W4NT once. The only reason we did it per band/mode
> last year was for something for people to chase since we had no rovers.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Bill Coleman <aa4lr at arrl.net <mailto:aa4lr at arrl.net>>
> > Date: 1/10/21 10:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
> > To: Jeff Clarke <ku8e at ku8e.com <mailto:ku8e at ku8e.com>>
> > Cc: secc <secc at contesting.com <mailto:secc at contesting.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [SECC] 2021 GQP
> >
> > How many folks got the W4AN, W4NT bonus last time? How many points
> was that?
> >
> > I think the one-time bonus idea is a good one. I’m just not sure how
> many points it should be.
> >
> > > On Jan 8, 2021, at 1:17 PM, Jeff Clarke <ku8e at ku8e.com
> <mailto:ku8e at ku8e.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK we will keep the multipliers as is. If there isn't any interest
> in having W4AN and W4NT as bonus stations I will remove that as well.
> I will keep the rule allowing multi-op entries from more than one
> station location in the same county until COVID-19 isn't an issue
> anymore. So basically we will revert back to 2019 rules with the
> exception of the new multi-op rule.
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > On 1/8/2021 12:57 PM, chaz at w4gkf.com <mailto:chaz at w4gkf.com> wrote:
> > >> I would like to strongly echo Scott’s remarks:
> > >>
> > >> "If it’s not broke, don’t “fix” it."
> > >>
> > >> Chaz W4GKF
> > >> GQP Awards Manager
> > >>
> > >>> Begin forwarded message:
> > >>>
> > >>> From: Scott Straw <kb4kbs at gmail.com <mailto:kb4kbs at gmail.com>>
> > >>> Subject: [SECC] 2021 GQP
> > >>> Date: January 8, 2021 at 9:40:14 AM EST
> > >>> To: SECC <secc at contesting.com <mailto:secc at contesting.com>>
> > >>>
> > >>> My thoughts:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. There seems to be a rising tone of defensiveness seeping into
> this thread. Let’s step back carefully and read what is presented,
> remain objective, and then carefully read what is authored (before
> pressing send) and of course, remain objective.
> > >>>
> > >>> 2. State QSO parties should be, and generally are, intended to
> be FUN operating events that encourage casual operators, both in-state
> and out-of-state, to get on the air and operate. Let’s not take this
> so seriously that we suck the fun out of it.
> > >>>
> > >>> 3. Any and all rules should be formed and crafted to push fun
> into the GQP, not suck it out. Out-of-state operators
> chasing 1x1 callsigns and bonus stations are obvious examples of the
> push, so long as the objectives are reasonably obtained by the casual
> operator (even though it is an “operating event”, 13 Colonies is
> presented as Exhibit A).
> > >>>
> > >>> 4. As to the “other side of the coin”, there needs to be
> incentive for the casual in-state operator to be active as well. A
> crazy idea to encourage in-state activity would be to count each S/P
> as a multiplier PER BAND. Of course this would mean a MAJOR contest
> software re-write, so its likely not practical for 2021.
> > >>>
> > >>> 5. The “COVID Concession”, allowing neighbors in the same county
> to act as a multi-two team from their separate homes with a single
> callsign seems like a great way to encourage in-state activity also.
> Coordination of bands and modes among team members to avoid
> simultaneous band/mode operation is not insurmountable. I would like
> to see this provision extended and encouraged. If the team is unable
> to use a single log connected via Internet for scoring, the two
> separate logs can easily be melded together afterward before submission.
> > >>>
> > >>> 6. With every proposed amendment to the rules, the preeminent
> question should be “will this encourage more activity?”.
> > >>>
> > >>> Finally, a personal note. As an AV Field Engineer, I get sent on
> a lot of service calls. Here are some of my main axioms:
> > >>> - Let’s verify that it’s broken before we jump in and
> start trying to fix it.
> > >>> - The lack of a desired feature doesn’t mean it’s broken.
> > >>> - The presence of an undesired feature doesn’t mean it’s broken.
> > >>>
> > >>> My main guiding principle was taught to me by my son:
> “Dad, if it’s not broken anymore, stop fixing it”.
> > >>>
> > >>> My calendar is cleared for April 10-11, 2021.
> > >>>
> > >>> Scott Straw, KB4KBS
> > >>> Roswell, Georgia USA
> > >>> (EM74tb)
> > >>>
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> > Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr at arrl.net
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